bobmac
Major Champion
I'm talking about peolpe in a position of trust who rape and molest children with their bosses knowledge and getting away with it.
Thorbjorn Olesen - Arrested
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I'm talking about peolpe in a position of trust who rape and molest children with their bosses knowledge and getting away with it.
clubchamp98
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That’s rare I would say.
In that case I agree with you but the police can’t do anything if it’s not reported.
Their boss should get the same sentence for hiding it imo
bobmac
Major Champion
But they don't, they get promoted.
And if you think its rare, I suggest you watch a film based on a true story called 'Spotlight'
drdel
Tour Rookie
The range to things that might be 'sexual' and/or 'assault' is very very wide, emotive and also subjective.
We've even had cases/reports of one guy 'brushing' against another guy. There's the recent assertion by Sturgeon that Boris Johnson was belittling her by stepping aside to allow her through a door first. An act some would alternatively define as courtesy.
There's a tendency to assume the worst and we might be wise not to condemn too quickly!
We've even had cases/reports of one guy 'brushing' against another guy. There's the recent assertion by Sturgeon that Boris Johnson was belittling her by stepping aside to allow her through a door first. An act some would alternatively define as courtesy.
There's a tendency to assume the worst and we might be wise not to condemn too quickly!
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Bob nothing would surprise me these days.
All I am saying is let’s wait to hear what the evidence is before we condemn him.
Seen on news at ten in Russia a riot cop hitting a man with a truncheon on his knees and ankles really gave him a pasting while two of his mates held him down, sickening .
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Must be a nightmare asking a woman out these days , without being accused of something.
backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Perhaps people have got away with worse - but two wrongs never make a right. If true, he deserves what he gets.
If it is/was just getting drunk & making a pillock of himself, then yes, it should be the airline who deal with it. But as soon as there is any semblance of endangering a plane or its crew then it needs to be treated seriously. In every case. And sexual assault also needs to be treated very seriously no matter how slight we outsiders may or may not think the action or deed was. And employers, governing bodies, and the like, should take it seriously too. That some don't doesn't mean that that should be the norm.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
If he was drunk, two questions; if he was drunk before he got on, why was he allowed on; if he became drunk on the plane, who served him the alcohol?
User20204
Well-known member
Some on here have seem to have already been judge and jury, surprised they've not asked for the death penalty back for him.
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Yeah maybe it was all just a misunderstanding 🙈
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Valid point but they don’t make him drink it.
Every bar person in the country would be guilty for the behaviour of the punters.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
They already are; s. 141 of the Licensing Act. It might be a question Olesen's defence team will ask at trial.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Was he in this country or international airspace ?
Are the laws the same?
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
The normal position is that passengers are subject to the laws of the country in which the aircraft is registered once it is in flight, subject to the law of the country it is in when grounded. He was in flight on a BA flight, charged by the Met Police & is appearing in an English Magistrates court. So effectively he is in this country, regardless of where he was in the air. I believe that flight attendants have the same right to refuse service as ground bar staff.
Dibby
Assistant Pro
I think we are really getting into the unknown now. There are so many permutations it becomes a silly game:
1. He was drunk before he boarded.
2. He was sober before he boarded.
3. He consumed enough alcohol to be drunk before he boarded, but it hadn't yet been absorbed into the bloodstream, so he appeared sober.
Then for each of the above 3 options:
1. He didn't drink any further on the flight.
2. He was served alcohol whilst appearing drunk.
3. He was served alcohol whilst sober.
4. He was served alcohol whilst appearing sober as the alcohol from previous drinking was not yet absorbed.
5. He drank alcohol ordered by another passenger (with or without their permission, and whom appeared sober\drunk etc..)
6. He brought his own alcohol onto the plane.
7. His drink was spiked.
There are loads more possibilities, no matter how likely or unlikely. So not much point playing a guessing game, until the facts are revealed.
Blue in Munich
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Dibby
Assistant Pro
The relevance is that we don't even know if the flight attendants served him alcohol or allowed him to board in an apparent state of intoxication, and so, therefore, your post and the few preceding it are going down a rabbit hole that may not even apply to the situation.
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
There might be a relevance if you'd quoted the correct post.
As for going down rabbit holes, the poster with whom I was discussing it & I were quite happy to do so, if we need pulling up over it I'll take that from a Mod.
bobmac
Major Champion
Too late, he's been found guilty by the media including the ET.
Dibby
Assistant Pro
I think that's a tough one for the ET. He certainly shouldn't be deemed guilty, but equally, he has caused some reputation damage.
It's a bit of a rock and a hard place scenario for the ET, they do what they've done and they get criticised for punishing a potentially innocent man, they do nothing and they effectively are saying bad behaviour is tolerated, especially if he is found guilty. I think this was a lose-lose, as no matter how, they handled it, some group would have complained.