The world's gone mad!

Possibly because it's easier to apologise than say " if you want to put a racist connotation to an innocent bit of fun, then it's you who have a problem" !



Honestly I'm no right on campaigner, I just think you've got to be sensitive to others interpretation of an act like this.

Maybe it's a generational thing!!

Why is blacking up/dressing up as the Jackson 5 funny??
 
Honestly I'm no right on campaigner, I just think you've got to be sensitive to others interpretation of an act like this.
Interesting if you look up the definition of a racist. All the ones I have read say that it is a person who believes that a certain race is superior to another race. Where does impersonating someone come close to this definition. People are interpreting actions as racist, when the only offence may be at worst bad taste. Let's concentrate on outing the real racists, rather than trying to put innocent people into that disgusting group.
 
So why is nobody having a go at the lass in the Ginger Wig and the Union Jack dress? she has done exactly the same thing by changing something about herself to impersonate a famous person/character, I dont see any Ginger haired people upset,

Im not seeing any black people upset either, just some politically correct FA official on a backside covering exercise

definately a mountain out of a molehill
 
Interesting if you look up the definition of a racist. All the ones I have read say that it is a person who believes that a certain race is superior to another race. Where does impersonating someone come close to this definition. People are interpreting actions as racist, when the only offence may be at worst bad taste. Let's concentrate on outing the real racists, rather than trying to put innocent people into that disgusting group.


Absolutely:thup:

There's also an issue though sometimes with seemingly light hearted acts like this being used by others to legitimise more sinister beliefs.

Re the ginger question, you're right Phil. I for one long to see the day when our ginger brothers and sisters have the yoke of persecution lifted from their pasty skinned shoulders :thup:
 
Subjective, and potentially poor taste. I wouldn't but if you felt comfortable...fair enough.

seriously? your on a wind up, right?

Honestly I'm no right on campaigner, I just think you've got to be sensitive to others interpretation of an act like this.

Maybe it's a generational thing!!

Why is blacking up/dressing up as the Jackson 5 funny??

who said anything about it being funny?

you are making light of the people Phil mentioned so your only affronted by the act of imitating anyone with black skin?
 
Absolutely:thup:

There's also an issue though sometimes with seemingly light hearted acts like this being used by others to legitimise more sinister beliefs.

Re the ginger question, you're right Phil. I for one long to see the day when our ginger brothers and sisters have the yoke of persecution lifted from their pasty skinned shoulders :thup:

Have you seriously considered therapy? It may well be to do with you finding your Teddy Bear floating face down in the pool!
 
There's also an issue though sometimes with seemingly light hearted acts like this being used by others to legitimise more sinister beliefs.

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There are also some people with seemingly light hearted acts like this who are being light hearted!
 
morning gents

seriously? your on a wind up, right?



who said anything about it being funny?

you are making light of the people Phil mentioned so your only affronted by the act of imitating anyone with black skin?

I presumed Phil was joking, I must have missed the bit at school that highlighted the historical persecution of the gingers, and connotations there in

Have you seriously considered therapy? It may well be to do with you finding your Teddy Bear floating face down in the pool!

To be fair mate, I don't think we're on that same page on subjects like this. Your views are pretty apparent and we're never going to agree.

There are also some people with seemingly light hearted acts like this who are being light hearted!

I do however agree in the main with rational fellas like yourself & Rich, Chris.

My point is why take the risk of offending.

I'm not saying her actions were sinister, just misguided. For which she has righly apologised.
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Kick it out are keeping her as an ambassador, because they probably rightly believe it's been blown out of proportion.

But....it's not acceptable, in the 21st century, to black up for a laugh and think no one will be offended. It sounds dodgy, it is dodgy and anyone that does it deserves to have their judgement questioned at the very least.

The thing I don't really get is that she's 22. Sister Act from memory was released in about 1994. Why is she dressing up as a charecter from an average film from around the time of her birth.
 
There are also some people with seemingly light hearted acts like this who are being light hearted!

I have just realised though, maybe there is a certain hypocrisy to what I am saying:o

http://youtu.be/s2F4ZWTjwTU

I used to love this on league of gentlemen, I'm confused now!!:o

Obviously I'm too grown up and leftie to laugh at it now, and I thoroughly disapprove of my previous self
 
I do however agree in the main with rational fellas like yourself & Rich, Chris.

My point is why take the risk of offending.

I'm not saying her actions were sinister, just misguided. For which she has righly apologised.
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Kick it out are keeping her as an ambassador, because they probably rightly believe it's been blown out of proportion.

But....it's not acceptable, in the 21st century, to black up for a laugh and think no one will be offended. It sounds dodgy, it is dodgy and anyone that does it deserves to have their judgement questioned at the very least.

The thing I don't really get is that she's 22. Sister Act from memory was released in about 1994. Why is she dressing up as a charecter from an average film from around the time of her birth.


Honestly, there are too many people looking for the meaning behind the act. Sometimes you just have to accept that some people don't have an agenda!

As the OP says " the world's gone mad", it has, but it's "pc mad", all we look for today is to protect people from being offended who actually are completely ambivalent to what has happened. something is said on a radio/tv show and thousands of people who never saw or heard the broadcast complain about the transmission. For sure we were guilty of racism back in the late 50's and 60's when I grew up but things have changed out of all proportion since then and, whilst I am sure it still exists today it's much less prevalent, but I don't think stories like the fancy dress party actually help eradicate racism because, if you look for some thing offensive in an act you probably can find it despite the fact that you might have to twist the truth a little ( by YOU, I don't mean you personally Rod)
 
When I was 12 I went to a Birthday party dressed up as Axel Foley out of Beverly Hills cop and put a little bit of coal soot on my face was I being racist?

My 12 year old Muslim friend and his family didnt seem to think so, or were they hiding their disgust?

He did move to America a few months later though.........
 
When I was 12 I went to a Birthday party dressed up as Axel Foley out of Beverly Hills cop and put a little bit of coal soot on my face was I being racist?

My 12 year old Muslim friend and his family didnt seem to think so, or were they hiding their disgust?

He did move to America a few months later though.........

We've covered that off mate, it's entirely subjective, but may cause offence. Are the offended over sensitive..maybe, but why chance it in 2014.

I'm still waiting for an explanation from Bernard Manning:o
 
No...Not offended by this.Typical knee jerk reaction..Whoever the England spokesperson is,ought to grow a a pair and say it was what it was..A fancy dress night out. Nothing more. Everything these days is over scrutinised,and looked into far to much..
 
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