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The Words of Wisdom of Boris Johnson - Foreign Secretary

SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Resurrecting this as a result of listening to Boris Johnson answering questions yesterday on a missing £46m from the London Garden bridge project

Disgraceful performance - and a performance was all it was. Full of blaming others, evasion, deceit, diversion and 'forgetfulness'. And this is the individual that many trotted after into the Referendum polling station. He should be out on his ear - he is a disgraceful, deceitful, self-serving charlatan and chancer - sullying the great position of state he currently holds. If only our PM was a bit stronger we might see the back of him - we'd hope forever.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-garden-bridge-plan-that-will-cost-public-46m

I don't hate anyone - but I utterly detest this sort of character.
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You still don't get it... The absolute vast majority had long made up their minds, on their voting intentions, long before any of rhetoric [from either side] started when the referendum was announced...

However, you are spot on with BJs 'failings'...
 
MegaSteve said:
You still don't get it... The absolute vast majority had long made up their minds, on their voting intentions, long before any of rhetoric [from either side] started when the referendum was announced...

However, you are spot on with BJs 'failings'...
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Oh I absolutely do get it...the bus...

Though if indeed what you say is true (really - you know this for a fact?) then what you have stated is the Number 1 argument for a second referendum - that nobody actually knew what they were voting for but knew what they wanted irrespective of any facts, logic or reasoning. They are NOT the same thing.

And by that statement you make me even more convinced that I am on the right side of the argument and determined to do whatever I can to stop this insane decision we have made. And the words of wisdom from BJ simply fill me with despair as well as derision.
 
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MegaSteve said:
You seriously have that little faith, in others, that you truly believe that many based their vote on a dodgy slogan scrawled across a bus...

Honestly :confused:
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Let's remind ourselves of what Dominic Cummings said about the £350m for the NHS on the side of the bus. From his Spectator article

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/dominic-cummings-brexit-referendum-won/

The demand was to replace the Big Three (Boris, Gisela, Gove) and the core campaign team with Farage, and replace £350 million / NHS with ‘go global’ trade babble. This didn’t get past the usual weekend boozy chats partly because of Steve Baker telling them he thought it a mad plan. This also shows how volatile the situation was right until the end and how few prominent eurosceptics even then understood that a) the £350 million / NHS argument was necessary to win and b) their ‘go global’ message was a total loser.

I highlighted the £350m bit - and he subsequently said that this decision proved to be correct - the £350m for NHS was what won the day.
 
The leavers I know based their decision on regaining control of decisions, laws etc. The bus was a side show. Regaining control was the defining issue for them.
 
I am assuming everyone is on the same page with BJ on his idea that travel between Camden & Islington is the same as travelling across international Irish borders ....
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Let's remind ourselves of what Dominic Cummings said about the £350m for the NHS on the side of the bus. From his Spectator article

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/dominic-cummings-brexit-referendum-won/

The demand was to replace the Big Three (Boris, Gisela, Gove) and the core campaign team with Farage, and replace £350 million / NHS with ‘go global’ trade babble. This didn’t get past the usual weekend boozy chats partly because of Steve Baker telling them he thought it a mad plan. This also shows how volatile the situation was right until the end and how few prominent eurosceptics even then understood that a) the £350 million / NHS argument was necessary to win and b) their ‘go global’ message was a total loser.

I highlighted the £350m bit - and he subsequently said that this decision proved to be correct - the £350m for NHS was what won the day.
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Doon frae Troon said:
I think more leavers based their vote on the false picture of the queue of 'Immigrants'. [refugees]
Close call between the two though.
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Well, according to Cleggy folk voted to leave because they were led to believe house prices would plummet allowing them to get on to the 'housing ladder'...

So, which one of you is right?

Or, is it simply a case of you really don't understand [or want to] the absolute myriad of reasons folk wanted out...
 
HughJars said:
I've never seen that propounded as a reason to remain by anyone.
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Really?

Go and read the BBC online comments under the PMs' speech today. Gallons of it. You also missed the stuff about all the great Human Rights stuff we have only had from the ECHR? We cannot do our own trade deals if we stay in the Single Market. Most of the "Remain" posts in the Art 50 thread are about us not being able to exist and trade if we leave the EU. The EU openly planning a EU Army, Border Control and Coastguard. They have tabled a motion to remove Member States from the IMO in favour of a single EU seat.

I could go on,

But of course, I could be wrong. No one has ever said any of the above.
 
IanM said:
If we haven't lost control, why is a primary argument of the Remain Campaign, how difficult it is to uncouple ourselves from the EU? :D
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Exactly - if we've got control why is the EU so worried about imposing the controls of ECJ and maintaining its jurisdiction?

The whole of the EU's negotiating strategy is based on maintaining control of the UK (and as an example to the other 27 not to step out of line)!!!
 
Well good to see our Foreign Secretary keeping things calm and diplomatic with the Russians by comparing Putin and the World Cup with Hitler and the Olympics. Hardly a sensible comparison when the Russians lost millions of people fighting Hitler. And it seems that most think that Boris our dear buffoon of a FS has blundered big time, and not for the first time.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Well good to see our Foreign Secretary keeping things calm and diplomatic with the Russians by comparing Putin and the World Cup with Hitler and the Olympics. Hardly a sensible comparison when the Russians lost millions of people fighting Hitler. And it seems that most think that Boris our dear buffoon of a FS has blundered big time, and not for the first time.
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4 years to late. Putin used the Winter Olympics in Russia for that.

Nice peice, straight out of the mouth of the BBC reporter.
 
Any sort of connection, however it was said was hugely irresponsible and foolish. Russia suffered horribly during Ww2 and Boris knows his history. We need to be calming this situation down, this would have the absolute opposite effect.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Any sort of connection, however it was said was hugely irresponsible and foolish. Russia suffered horribly during Ww2 and Boris knows his history. We need to be calming this situation down, this would have the absolute opposite effect.
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Johnson is an egotistical idiot.
How on earth has the UK stepped so low as to have this boy/man buffoon as Foreign Secretary.
No wonder the RoW is laughing at us.
 
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