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The Words of Wisdom of Boris Johnson - Foreign Secretary

Old Skier said:
He is an egotistic politician who wants the top job, no different than the majority of those from ALL parties who spout their lies to those gullible enough to listen and not see beyond the rhetoric. Why do people continue to spit their hate and venom at just one man when there are a further 649 to pick from.

No politician is worth the individual internet time they seem to get.
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The majority of MPs are nothing like Johnson - but if the Tories want to keep him there, or are too frightened to get rid of him - well tht's their outlook. Pity he has such a high international profile...
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
The majority of MPs are nothing like Johnson - but if the Tories want to keep him there, or are too frightened to get rid of him - well tht's their outlook. Pity he has such a high international profile...
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Johnson did not appear to be popular with the QT audience and panel last night.
His one supporter was barely able to string four words together. He kept saying 'He's British'.
 
DCB said:
Inappropriate post removed.



Keep it within the rules gents.
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I have linked to several videos or articles with the occasional rude words in before. I flagged it up so giving grown adults the choice not to watch it if they are offended by rude words. There were no rude words in the actual post.

Sorry if I offended any grown adults who are offended by rude words. And if you are please do not read the comments section on GM Facebook page either as there are rude words there.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Re Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe

Nice one Boris, Nice one son...doh!

If we didn't have the PM we have today then whither our Foreign Secretary?
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Hommmmmmmm! Hommmmmmmm! Ding, Ding. Release all that inner anger, it's unhealthy to compare yourself with others as you will become vain and bitter, there will always be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Get your Yin and Yang back in balance.

Just saying!
 
When you think of our Foreign Secretaries of the recent past - Hammond, Hague, D.Milliband, Cook, Beckett, Straw, Rifkind, Hurd - they all seemed more fit for purpose in that role - more considered in what they said and with a generally calm statesmanlike demeanor in the role. Not doubting Johnson's got some political abilities but is the Foreign Office, where tact and diplomacy with carefully chose words is king, really the best place for him? Too much of a 'character' with the scruffbag image, off the cuff remarks and always plotting for the top job to be really focussed on the day job I think, just a stepping stone as far as he's concerned.
Seems like a fairly hefty 'drop the ball' incident re the woman in Iran, Rifkind suggesting he would have been briefed but probably didn't read the brief fully enough which isn't good enough when dealing with something as serious as relations with Iran.
Bit of a liability in the role. Re other ministerial roles he couldn't do chancellor imo but something like Home Secretary or Defence he'd be better suited to? Fallon's leaving would have been a good opportunity to move him there.
 
SocketRocket said:
Hommmmmmmm! Hommmmmmmm! Ding, Ding. Release all that inner anger, it's unhealthy to compare yourself with others as you will become vain and bitter, there will always be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Get your Yin and Yang back in balance.

Just saying!
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You might have a point - if you actually had a point - and made a comment on the behaviour of our Foreign Secretary and the impotence of our Prime Minister.

Have you any thoughts on that other than just having a go. I have no 'inner anger' for these people - I have total indifference and some sympathy for the PM and disdain towards our self-serving 'joke' of a Foreign Secretary - and don't just take that as my view as he is a joke in the eyes of many overseas diplomats and even others in his own party.

And as usually he tries to wriggle out of a situation that he has created by dissembling what he said - when he could have just offered a fulsome apology and said that he got it quite wrong. But no. Boris comes first.
 
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ColchesterFC said:
How many overseas diplomats have you met to know that they share your view of Boris Johnson?
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Funnily enough I do not know that many - how many do you know that think he is brilliant.

Have you heard of TV and radio? You don't need to know someone in person to get a feeling for what they think. Or is that just all 'Fake News'

Anyway - since you are so keen just to have a go and not contribute anything on the debate about the competency of our Foreign Secretary - what do you think of our Foreign Secretary and this recent mess he's created - and serious issue for the woman involved. Or can you not comment because you do not know Mr Johnson in person.
 
maxfli65 said:
When you think of our Foreign Secretaries of the recent past - Hammond, Hague, D.Milliband, Cook, Beckett, Straw, Rifkind, Hurd - they all seemed more fit for purpose in that role - more considered in what they said and with a generally calm statesmanlike demeanor in the role. Not doubting Johnson's got some political abilities but is the Foreign Office, where tact and diplomacy with carefully chose words is king, really the best place for him? Too much of a 'character' with the scruffbag image, off the cuff remarks and always plotting for the top job to be really focussed on the day job I think, just a stepping stone as far as he's concerned.
Seems like a fairly hefty 'drop the ball' incident re the woman in Iran, Rifkind suggesting he would have been briefed but probably didn't read the brief fully enough which isn't good enough when dealing with something as serious as relations with Iran.
Bit of a liability in the role. Re other ministerial roles he couldn't do chancellor imo but something like Home Secretary or Defence he'd be better suited to? Fallon's leaving would have been a good opportunity to move him there.
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In the Trump world, does the foreign secretary-esq role demand someone to be statesman or are they best to being a scuffbag with off-the-cuff ability
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Funnily enough I do not know that many - how many do you know that think he is brilliant.

Have you heard of TV and radio? You don't need to know someone in person to get a feeling for what they think. Or is that just all 'Fake News'

Anyway - since you are so keen just to have a go and not contribute anything on the debate about the competency of our Foreign Secretary - what do you think of our Foreign Secretary and this recent mess he's created - and serious issue for the woman involved. Or can you not comment because you do not know Mr Johnson in person.
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So the answer to how many overseas diplomats you know is none. And you're basing your opinion of what these people think on conjecture and guesswork based I would assume on body language in some short video clips you've seen on the tv.

As for Boris Johnson, I think he's a complete clown who should never have got the job of foreign Secretary. But your suggestion that he has "created" this mess just shows your prejudice against him. This woman has been in prison for over 18 months (584 days). That's before Johnson even became Foreign Secretary. He certainly hasn't helped the situation but to say he created it is a blatant lie.
 
ColchesterFC said:
So the answer to how many overseas diplomats you know is none. And you're basing your opinion of what these people think on conjecture and guesswork based I would assume on body language in some short video clips you've seen on the tv.

As for Boris Johnson, I think he's a complete clown who should never have got the job of foreign Secretary. But your suggestion that he has "created" this mess just shows your prejudice against him. This woman has been in prison for over 18 months (584 days). That's before Johnson even became Foreign Secretary. He certainly hasn't helped the situation but to say he created it is a blatant lie.
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What are you on about? No conjecture and no guesswork on my part whatsoever. You may choose to ignore every report that News and Foreign Affairs correspondents make on the feedback they receive from overseas diplomats on the Foreign Secretary. I can only trust that the reporters are not telling complete porkies, and as the views and sources are many and varied I have no reason to suspect they are but other than the truth. Or have you just not heard any such reporting?

And yes - he created this mess - not the original issue - but his own current difficulties are completely of his own making. He did not have to say what he did to the FA Select Committee. And he could easily just have apologised straight off for getting it wrong, rather than spin weasel words around how he 'could have been clearer' - words that have got him nowhere other than into the situation he finds himself.

Please - do not call me a liar!
 
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I looked at the thread title, and thought "..are there any?".....but then 16 pages of more Brexit/Article 50/ similar arguements.
Think I will continue to ignore this and the others once again:)
 
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