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The Words of Wisdom of Boris Johnson - Foreign Secretary

And so as Trump manipulates what the US public hear and understand about coronavirus (see for instance the WH blocking of advice from the experts that seniors should desist from flying at the moment) and preferring that the cruise liner didn't dock as it makes his numbers look worse (even though the numbers are real) - because Trump does not want to be blamed in any way for a spread of coronavirus in the US - or anything to reflect badly on his administration - might we see similar attempted manipulations from #10. I hope not.

But there are some confusing messages coming from #10 - with gatherings of people quite closely packed seemingly OK - but we should avoid shaking hands? Or are we still able to shake hands? And if we find we have been in the vicinity of someone testing positive then we should self-isolate - but Johnson was at the #10 event that Dorries was at, and he I suggest was quite probably in close vicinity to her from time to time - so is he to self-isolate and get tested? And Matt Hancock must surely have been close to Dorries in the last week or so - she is a Health minister reporting directly to him. Is he going to self-isolate - and if not why not?

And all we the public need to do at the moment is thoroughly wash our hands.

I fear that there is a risk that we might be played a bit by Cummings and Co. in respect of what we are being told to do and what the government does - to ensure that Johnson and the Conservative government cannot be blamed on any aspect of this very difficult situation. I desperately hope not - because as I posted - there is the opportunity to bring the country together - and perhaps to hold us together - coming out of this - but for this we need total honesty and openness from government.

If they need to make very difficult decisions then please just make them - and even though to many these decisions might seem excessive and some will be critical - maybe just make them. Put political considerations aside.
 
I rarely comment on anything, as I see little point in arguing from a keyboard but you must agree that page you linked to is not completely balanced so you surely cannot believe they wouldn't spin a news story could you?
Whatever Boris said or didn't say, can you find a complete text preferably not from a newspaper?
 
I rarely comment on anything, as I see little point in arguing from a keyboard but you must agree that page you linked to is not completely balanced so you surely cannot believe they wouldn't spin a news story could you?
Whatever Boris said or didn't say, can you find a complete text preferably not from a newspaper?
what difference does that make, are you doubting Boris Said it or the the torty MP for Bucks saying its not true?
 
I rarely comment on anything, as I see little point in arguing from a keyboard but you must agree that page you linked to is not completely balanced so you surely cannot believe they wouldn't spin a news story could you?
Whatever Boris said or didn't say, can you find a complete text preferably not from a newspaper?

Show me a media outlet, traditional or social, that is perceived as balanced nowadays.
 
I have to say that I was very impressed by the words, tone and demeanor of our Prime Minister throughout the Press Conference, and as we look over the Pond I can thank the Lord that we have a clearly serious, logical and well-informed person at the helm - and I can't say I'd ever have thought I'd be saying that.

I'll tip my hat to your honest comment and principles.
Sorry but I can't resist referring back to my earlier posts in this thread when I said that from my experience of Johnson on projects involving him as Mayor of London he was always decisive, up-to-speed on the projects' status and considered the expert opinions - long may it continue!! In private meetings he is a long way from the public/media persona which is a pity.
 
I have to say that I was very impressed by the words, tone and demeanor of our Prime Minister throughout the Press Conference, and as we look over the Pond I can thank the Lord that we have a clearly serious, logical and well-informed person at the helm - and I can't say I'd ever have thought I'd be saying that.
Neither can I believe you said it. It's a wind up surely?
 
I have to say that I was very impressed by the words, tone and demeanor of our Prime Minister throughout the Press Conference, and as we look over the Pond I can thank the Lord that we have a clearly serious, logical and well-informed person at the helm - and I can't say I'd ever have thought I'd be saying that.


I never thought I'd hear you praise Boris, but hats off to you. ?
 
Johnson using Coronavirus to take a totally untrue and desperate political swipe at SNHS.
SNHS has by far the best NHS record in the UK.
More [and better paid] doctors, nurses, GP's, beds and better A&E records.

Whatever happened to his 'one nation' Tory party, the guy just can't help himself.
 
My praise is specific and limited to yesterday’s press conference when I felt that he did the part of lead for the experts well, and displayed the appropriate solemnity in tone and deference to the experts, and a lack of self-serving. That he went up in my estimation does not lift him far off the base position he sits.

Johnson did yesterday well and I felt he spoke authentically. This does not absolve him of all of his sins and enable me to ignore his defects of character. He has quite some way to go for me to trust him beyond yesterday. I need to see a lot more in the wider political context. He has shown to me that he can do better than what I have previously seen and heard. The proof will be in the future pudding.
 
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Johnson using Coronavirus to take a totally untrue and desperate political swipe at SNHS.
SNHS has by far the best NHS record in the UK.
More [and better paid] doctors, nurses, GP's, beds and better A&E records.

Whatever happened to his 'one nation' Tory party, the guy just can't help himself.
I’m not sure that he did. He did mention poorer resilience in Scotland and yes I did pick that up at the time, but from what I heard from the FM that is more in respect of services overall and not specifically the SNHS. Less resilience does not imply poorer standards or ability. Larger organisations of any sort tend to have more resilience to major shock, and are better able to continue normal or near to normal, than smaller ones.
 
Johnson using Coronavirus to take a totally untrue and desperate political swipe at SNHS.
SNHS has by far the best NHS record in the UK.
More [and better paid] doctors, nurses, GP's, beds and better A&E records.

Whatever happened to his 'one nation' Tory party, the guy just can't help himself.

Just a quick 'factcheck.'

Staff Nurse, NHS Lanarkshire = £23,711......………… staff nurse NHS England = £23,821

Awaiting cancer diagnosis SNHS = 6 weeks...…………..…….. awaiting cancer diagnosis NHS England = 2 weeks.

GP 'v' patient ratio Scotland = 1151...……….. GP 'v' patient ratio England = 1053 (note, this is SNHS own figures)

Edit; beds.... there are more beds 'v' patients in Scotland, although the difference isn't huge. However, the occupancy rates show that there is more day case usage in England. This means the ratio of cases completed is higher in England.

Another interesting stat, if you're interested, is the number of emergency readmissions within 30 days..... by far the best? You'd struggle to get a sheet of paper separating both NHS's, and SNHS wins some and NHS England wins others.... by far the best? Not really.
 
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Johnson using Coronavirus to take a totally untrue and desperate political swipe at SNHS.
SNHS has by far the best NHS record in the UK.
More [and better paid] doctors, nurses, GP's, beds and better A&E records.

Whatever happened to his 'one nation' Tory party, the guy just can't help himself.
Any evidence? I hate the bloke, but yesterday I was impressed by his performance and at no time did he have a swipe at SNHS.

Sturgeon was in the meetings with him and I’m sure she would of been straight on to the media point scoring.

The SNP Deputy Leader in the HoC’s was on QT last night and made no mention of it.
 
How anyone can say he’s handling this well is beyond me.

The government are dropping the ball over and over while other countries take action.
 
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