The NHS drive me insane

[chrisd]

Its as free as it will be compared to paying private. The OP doesnt work so its effectively free to him.

Maybe he should go for his xray with you then?

I have no idea on NHS efficiency and dont really care but I know for 34 years of Treatment and care for Type 1 Diabetes they havd been great.

Anything else you want to cause agro over?

It is not free to him or anyone who pays taxes. Until he works his medical care is paid for by his parents in their taxes, once he works he will pay his own NHS contributions from taxes.

This is not " causing agro over" it is just a difference of opinion !


Your treatment has been exlempory - great. My local hospital pretty well killed my mother - we are bound to have differing views


Chris

 

[Andy]

Its a discussion not agro .. everyone else is discussing their opinion, your the one telling people what to do (go private , go for xrays with him , build bridges etc) jeez will you chillax man ..

If your having a bad day go kick the neighbours cat or something..

Disclaimer , blade or anyone else on the GM forum do not condone cruelty to animals .. except some monkeys on here who shall not be named :rofl:

Aye very good.

 

[thecraw]

I am having an operation to fuse both my big toes.

X-ray done, walk back to see the consultant.
X-ray is on his screen.
Offered operation due to degeneration of my toes.
Letter through thus week with operation date.

Bang bang, jobs a good one!

NHS can't complain, perfect service for me. They're not perfect but to walk about with a chip on your shoulder is pathetic. And Chris, my mother also had a really bad experience where a routine ear operation went seriously wrong. It wasn't done on purpose and she was in hospital for a reason.

That reason was she needed medical help!

 

[chrisd]

They're not perfect but to walk about with a chip on your shoulder is pathetic. And Chris, my mother also had a really bad experience where a routine ear operation went seriously wrong. It wasn't done on purpose and she was in hospital for a reason.

That reason was she needed medical help!

Craw, it's wrong to suggest that I "walk round with a chip on my shoulder" about the NHS, I have had successful treatment both NHS and privately and know, as well as anyone, when it works well, its a good provider.

I have no wish to know the ins and outs of you mothers treatment and if you are and your family are happy then that's fine.

I am also not looking to discuss the treatment of my mother in our local NHS hospital except to say that her care and treatment was absolutely appalling and they clearly contributed to, what became an unecessarily painful and premature death due to clear ,unequivical and unacceptable standard of nursing care. At exactly the same time as my mother died, my sons partners, grand mother also died in the same hospital and the hospital had to pay compensation and issue a tv apology as the care she received which was similar, but not as bad as my mothers which, likewise, bought an early demise. We chose as a family not to persue the matter as it would have been too upsetting.

You may see my postings as pathetic I am sure there are others reading this maybe who would not.


Chris

 

[thecraw]

I was not specifically targeting your good self with the chip on the shoulder comment. It appears a good few people like to jump on band wagons and sling muck in any direction they see fit.

The level of service we get for lets be honest a little token gesture deducted at source, from our wages is on the whole excellent. You would pay a whole lot more for our NHS in other countries.

I am sorry about your experiences with your mother and the NHS. In general though I do feel that we got a dam fine health service.

 

[chrisd]

I was not specifically targeting your good self with the chip on the shoulder comment. It appears a good few people like to jump on band wagons and sling muck in any direction they see fit.

The level of service we get for lets be honest a little token gesture deducted at source, from our wages is on the whole excellent. You would pay a whole lot more for our NHS in other countries.

I am sorry about your experiences with your mother and the NHS. In general though I do feel that we got a dam fine health service.

Kiss and make up?


Chris

 

[jammag]

The problem with peoples views on the NHS is that it becomes a very personal opinion, if you have had a bad experience then it has probably affected you quite bad but if you are rushed to hospital and recover you will think the world of it. So there always will be these greatly differing views. The NHS staff probably make as many mistakes as any of us have at work how ever there mistakes can be fatal where as our mistakes can be rectified a bit easier. Unfortunately mistakes happen we are human its just unfortunate when we are on the receiving end.

Hospitals can be very slow at times but I am sure there are reasons for it and they are not doing it on purpose just to annoy you. These guys could fix your elbow so be patient and live your life, its just unfortunate if there timings dont match your own but as someone said before you have a long while to live.

 

[Bikky73]

From a pragmatic POV, in Scarborough my brother was nearly killed through incompetence, but I've not actually met or heard anyone have anything good to say about them.

A local Hospital near me, had a patient go Nil by mouth for 3 days running for a theatre slot, after nearly being killed after being hit by a car. She (my ex) got bumped time and time again because people came in for a boob job, and got priority. This is Policy as a boob job comes under one category and a leg saving urgent plastics procedure comes under a different category, and these particular days the boob jobs category had priority in theatres. You tell me where that's right?

Now the first is incompetance at all levels. The second is downright ridiculous policy. The admissions ward at this place wouldn't listen to my ex saying something was wrong, which nearly lost her her leg. The plastics ward the staff were fantastic, and to hear the registrar have a go at the fully fledged consultant from the other ward for not at least consulting them before theatre to fix the bone, was right on.

But the crux is, There are those staff that really work hard and to a damned good job because they care. There are those that for one reason or another, be it CBA, or be it downtrodden, or be it lack of staffing due to budget cuts, that just don't manage to cope and do a good job.

The NHS as a whole is a fantastic service, and yes needs steamlining, but more so by not wasting its resources on immigrants, and (i know this happens) India-Pakistan regions Dr's bringing relatives over on cheap flights for free care then packing them home before the bill arrives. Yes we complain about a new laptop for a couple of grand, and a new phone for a few hundred quid. But a procedure free on NHS for 8,9,10 or even 20-30 thousand for forigners, not born in this country and never paid a penny towards this country. Now that's wrong.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I was rushed into a local hospital (Wexham in Slough) by ambulance when the pancreas was in danger of giving up the ghost and it was touch and go so I was told much later. This place has a terrible reputation and is in big financial do do. The treatment I had in the 3 1/2 weeks and several months after was top quality.

With regards to urgent cases, I think you'll find that any true priority case still gets bumped to the top of the list. I'm sure there are cases a lot of people could recount of where things go wrong but its only when this happens (yes it shouldn't but life isn't that simple) that people get to hear about it. For the thousands of other ops and procedures that are performed on time and correctly with great diligence, and the care these people receive on the wards and recovering afterwards from frankly underpaid nursing staff (but thats another kettle of fis altogether) it all goes unnoticed. Sadly the mistakes make news. I'm sorry for those that have had to endure the worst of NHS care and clearly have been let down and lost loved ones as a result but if the chips are down I'd still take my chances on my loved ones being treated with humanity and compassion and getting the best care possible. My mother has stomach cancer and is on the NHS. She has been royally looked after and although there will be no remission they are still doing all they can to keep it at bay and let her live as normal a life as possible. Lets not forget. the breast implant scandal proves that private ain't no guarantee of a better service

 

[Bikky73]

I was rushed into a local hospital (Wexham in Slough) by ambulance when the pancreas was in danger of giving up the ghost and it was touch and go so I was told much later. This place has a terrible reputation and is in big financial do do. The treatment I had in the 3 1/2 weeks and several months after was top quality.

With regards to urgent cases, I think you'll find that any true priority case still gets bumped to the top of the list. I'm sure there are cases a lot of people could recount of where things go wrong but its only when this happens (yes it shouldn't but life isn't that simple) that people get to hear about it. For the thousands of other ops and procedures that are performed on time and correctly with great diligence, and the care these people receive on the wards and recovering afterwards from frankly underpaid nursing staff (but thats another kettle of fis altogether) it all goes unnoticed. Sadly the mistakes make news. I'm sorry for those that have had to endure the worst of NHS care and clearly have been let down and lost loved ones as a result but if the chips are down I'd still take my chances on my loved ones being treated with humanity and compassion and getting the best care possible. My mother has stomach cancer and is on the NHS. She has been royally looked after and although there will be no remission they are still doing all they can to keep it at bay and let her live as normal a life as possible. Lets not forget. the breast implant scandal proves that private ain't no guarantee of a better service

True. My main 2 gripes were the consultant not listening to the patient, and beleive it or not, the place she got hit by the car was right outside the hospital, I mean less than 120seconds to walk from the A&E entrance, but she had to wait 40minutes for an ambulance. The staff couldnt cross the boder to treat her at the roadside, for fear of prosecution if something went wrong. How Crap is that?

 

[Mr_T]

So today was the day of my CT scan, appointment was at 5:10, so we planned to leave at 4:30 so that we didn't have to worry if we got caught in traffic, anyways my mum started the engine when her mobile rang, she answered and it was the hospital, their CT machine thing has broken so my appointment is cancelled now I don't have a problem with this kind of stuff, stuff breaks, no ones fault, but they said it broke on Saturday and their calling us 40 minutes before the scheduled appointment? Cutting it a bit fine I thought, it was pure luck that they caught us at that time, as if they'd called 5 minutes later we'd have been on our way...

 

[Bikky73]

So today was the day of my CT scan, appointment was at 5:10, so we planned to leave at 4:30 so that we didn't have to worry if we got caught in traffic, anyways my mum started the engine when her mobile rang, she answered and it was the hospital, their CT machine thing has broken so my appointment is cancelled now I don't have a problem with this kind of stuff, stuff breaks, no ones fault, but they said it broke on Saturday and their calling us 40 minutes before the scheduled appointment? Cutting it a bit fine I thought, it was pure luck that they caught us at that time, as if they'd called 5 minutes later we'd have been on our way...

UL, I have to chuckle a bit though, because, almost on a weekly basis we receive an email around the organisation stating our CT scanner has broken down again.