The Masters 2022

[Deleted member 29109]

Tiger may have his detractors on here.

But that round was simply stunning.

 

[sunshine]

Sorry I just see threads about Woods and the Masters so thought it was time to have a thread about the actual comp

https://twitter.com/x/status/1511337567681237004

menu looks pretty good for the Champions Dinner

Would also recommend downloading the Masters App

Thread about the actual comp. And the menu for dinner ??

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Well thats just flipping extraordinary. It may well be just a footnote in the history of golf, but in the overall context, that is an incredible round. Tiger just keeps living up to the hype, no matter how much some people dislike it. At his age, with already the most incredible comeback in history behind him, the long time out, the surgeries, to go out of the traps cold like that and still mixing it with the best, just shows how he truly is head and shoulders above all of the rest of them there. And there are some fine talents. But he is in a different league. You saw one of the rounds of your lives this evening ladies and gentlemen.

His is not the most incredible comeback in history...it quite simply isn't.

Just go read a bit about Ben Hogan and you will appreciate that TW has got some way to go on the 'comeback' front before his is anything like what Hogan achieved - in 1953 especially - after a much worse car smash and much more serious injuries. However with everything to do with TW for me the sometimes ludicrous hyperbole detracts from his achievements, and in this instance his undoubted grit and determination to compete again at the highest level.

A decent knock from him yesterday in the circumstances, for which he is to be congratulated.

 

[Dando]

Apologies if this has popped up on other Masters threads but is McGinley's hair dye a new thing? I know he's been working hard at his Barnet in the last few years but there seems to be a new tint to things now

It looks like a tabby cat is taking a nap on his head

 

[need_my_wedge]

Well Rory was just..... being Rory ..... again. Probably shouldn't expect anything else these days. 12 out of 14 fairways hit but short putting letting him down as usual. Missed a few simple putts, whilst long putting saved him at times. Really want him to do better but it's so frustrating to watch.

 

[Golfnut1957]

Well Rory was just..... being Rory ..... again. Probably shouldn't expect anything else these days. 12 out of 14 fairways hit but short putting letting him down as usual. Missed a few simple putts, whilst long putting saved him at times. Really want him to do better but it's so frustrating to watch.

Rory hasn't even been a part of the conversation, at least up until now. Even on the broadcast he was only bit part, not really featuring until Tiger had finished, and he had reached Amen corner. I saw a lot more of Brooks, admittedly I saw next to nothing of Fitzpatrick, the other member of the group.

And while it's only circumstantial, have a look at any conversation about Masters bets, and he doesn't feature at all.

Perhaps today is the day when he becomes relevant.

 

[Depreston]

Well Rory was just..... being Rory ..... again. Probably shouldn't expect anything else these days. 12 out of 14 fairways hit but short putting letting him down as usual. Missed a few simple putts, whilst long putting saved him at times. Really want him to do better but it's so frustrating to watch.

Yeah 14 killed him

But tbf he’s not completely played himself out of it for once needs to up his game on the par 5s

 

[Deleted member 29109]

His is not the most incredible comeback in history...it quite simply isn't.

Just go read a bit about Ben Hogan and you will appreciate that TW has got some way to go on the 'comeback' front before his is anything like what Hogan achieved - in 1953 especially - after a much worse car smash and much more serious injuries. However with everything to do with TW for me the sometimes ludicrous hyperbole detracts from his achievements, and in this instance his undoubted grit and determination to compete again at the highest level.

A decent knock from him yesterday in the circumstances, for which he is to be congratulated.

Hogan wasn’t playing against the depth of field that Tiger is.

Still nothing short of miraculous though.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Here's some numbers for winning the Masters and how many shots back they were back after each round.

• 7 shots back - Tiger Woods
• 6 shots back - Sergio Garcia
• 5 shots back - Mickelson, O'Meara and Woods
• Everyone else 4 shots or less
• Only two winners in the last 23 years have gone wire to wire - Johnson and Immelman.
• Statistically you can probably (but not certainly) look at anyone at Level par or better to win.
  • One caveat is that there's going to be a decent wind this afternoon with gusts up to 35mph. Morning staters may well have an advantage.

 

[Swango1980]

Hogan wasn’t playing against the depth of field that Tiger is.

Still nothing short of miraculous though.

In addition, I think Hogan was around 37 at the time of the accident, he won his last Major at 41, was probably competitive in Majors until he was 44ish, and then not so much. Tiger is already 46, clearly way past his prime, horrific injury on top of all the other injuries he had before that. And, he has to compete against guys who, in pretty much every other competitor in the field, are subject to the best sports science has to throw at them to get them to where they are.

I'm guessing that many of the golfers that competed in the early 1950's were much much further away from their best physical potential compared to the golfers today.

However, I suspect the name SwingsitlikeHogan indicates a little bias in one direction in this debate. Regardless, for either player to get up and walk again was a great achievement, let alone play competitive golf.

 

[Swango1980]

I always assumed that Sky sent out all their pundits / commentators to the actual venue during the Majors and the WGCs. However, only some of them went over. Ewen Murray was working from a studio in London yesterday. That ruins it a little for me. I don't know why, I just always felt that everything feels more authentic if the commentators and pundits are out there, living and breathing the atmosphere. The expenses to send commentators over there must be absolutely trivial compared to the money Sky pay to broadcast the Masters.

 

[Orikoru]

I always assumed that Sky sent out all their pundits / commentators to the actual venue during the Majors and the WGCs. However, only some of them went over. Ewen Murray was working from a studio in London yesterday. That ruins it a little for me. I don't know why, I just always felt that everything feels more authentic if the commentators and pundits are out there, living and breathing the atmosphere. The expenses to send commentators over there must be absolutely trivial compared to the money Sky pay to broadcast the Masters.

I think the last couple of years Butch has been working from home - that's why he always seems to be on a slight delay. i.e. the ball just misses the hole and he still thinks it has a chance until 2 seconds later. Davies and Coltart seemed to talk over each other a bit yesterday as well, although I wasn't sure if that was due to delay or whether they're both just crap. Probably the latter.

 

[Swango1980]

I think the last couple of years Butch has been working from home - that's why he always seems to be on a slight delay. i.e. the ball just misses the hole and he still thinks it has a chance until 2 seconds later. Davies and Coltart seemed to talk over each other a bit yesterday as well, although I wasn't sure if that was due to delay or whether they're both just crap. Probably the latter.

Butch mentioned yesterday "People ask me which Masters I have been to, it would be easier to tell them the ones I have NOT been to". I thought it sort of implied he was there this year as well. Given that I believe some are on site, I thought Butch would definitely be there given he is American. Wayne Riley is there, as he did a piece near one of the scoreboards.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

In addition, I think Hogan was around 37 at the time of the accident, he won his last Major at 41, was probably competitive in Majors until he was 44ish, and then not so much. Tiger is already 46, clearly way past his prime, horrific injury on top of all the other injuries he had before that. And, he has to compete against guys who, in pretty much every other competitor in the field, are subject to the best sports science has to throw at them to get them to where they are.

I'm guessing that many of the golfers that competed in the early 1950's were much much further away from their best physical potential compared to the golfers today.

However, I suspect the name SwingsitlikeHogan indicates a little bias in one direction in this debate. Regardless, for either player to get up and walk again was a great achievement, let alone play competitive golf.

Has also previously tried saying Hogan's injuries were worse than Woods. Not sure comparing injuries is a tasteful line of proving a case. I personally think what Woods has achieved in winning at Augusta again was miraculous at the time given how he's body had already gone through the wringer but it was eclipsed by shooting -1 on a very hilly course with no competitive build up

 

[Deleted member 21258]

Watched the amen coverage for free on utube, didnt see that much coverage of tiger as a result.

FULL COVERAGE ! Masters 2022 | Amen Corner | Day 1 - YouTube

Hope they do something similar tonight. Thanks Sky/Masters.

 

[MarkT]

I think the last couple of years Butch has been working from home - that's why he always seems to be on a slight delay. i.e. the ball just misses the hole and he still thinks it has a chance until 2 seconds later. Davies and Coltart seemed to talk over each other a bit yesterday as well, although I wasn't sure if that was due to delay or whether they're both just crap. Probably the latter.

Butch was there on Wednesday so presume he's stayed on and his commentary is more on time, Davies and Riley definitely there. Sounds like Murray and maybe Coltart are in London.

 

[Springveldt]

Well Rory was just..... being Rory ..... again. Probably shouldn't expect anything else these days. 12 out of 14 fairways hit but short putting letting him down as usual. Missed a few simple putts, whilst long putting saved him at times. Really want him to do better but it's so frustrating to watch.

I get frustrated watching him, imagine how me must be feeling.

Off the tee, he was brilliant. Hit a couple of slack ones into greens but on the whole was pretty damn good. Then he does things like 3 putt from 16 feet.

He's going to do his usual. He'll have 3 mediocre rounds and 1 brilliant round and end up in the top 10 without ever threatening.

 

[Springveldt]

Butch mentioned yesterday "People ask me which Masters I have been to, it would be easier to tell them the ones I have NOT been to". I thought it sort of implied he was there this year as well. Given that I believe some are on site, I thought Butch would definitely be there given he is American. Wayne Riley is there, as he did a piece near one of the scoreboards.

Butch is definitely there, he's on the practice area right now with DJ.

I'm still waiting on Radar saying something that "the members" won't like and he'll be asked to not come back.

 

[Colin L]

Settling down for a viewing session and hoping to see a range of players. Couldn't see the trees for the woods yesterday.

 

[Golfnut1957]

Has also previously tried saying Hogan's injuries were worse than Woods. Not sure comparing injuries is a tasteful line of proving a case. I personally think what Woods has achieved in winning at Augusta again was miraculous at the time given how he's body had already gone through the wringer but it was eclipsed by shooting -1 on a very hilly course with no competitive build up

I'm just curious, but do you have any idea at all about what Hogan went through?