Taking shelter from rain

[Swango1980]

So they have withdrawn from the comp on the day, then booked to play later after the comp, and thus they are not in the comp? It might not be ideal but they could have withdrawn for any amount of reasons then claimed they were ok to play. If there is space for them to play what’s to stop them?
Perhaps I just don’t understand the need to punish someone that enters a voluntary comp for not playing, unless it is of course a regular happening.

I think there is confusion still. They withdrew from comp, so the bit that is clear is that they withdrew from their scheduled tee time. However, the bit I'm unsure about is that, when they decided to play later, were they playing a social round, or did they still submit their score as part of the competition? Hopefully 3offTheTee can clarify that, unless I missed it

 

[fundy]

My previous club in England had a rule on competitions. Pull out on the day, banned from the next two medals. Pull out the day before, banned from the next medal.
Harsh maybe but it made people think twice.

Sounds like a nice friendly club lol

 

[Robster59]

Sounds like a nice friendly club lol

Oh it was, it just didn't let people mess them around.

 

[jim8flog]

For clarification. There was a Junior Comp @9 a.m. today with 6 groups going out in 3’s. The weather was poor. One lad withdrew and added his time around 1.5 hours later with another competitor when the weather was expected to improve. This was outside the competitions scheduled time. If it had been within the scheduled time would it have made any difference?

If there is an official start sheet with their names on it and they failed to start at that time (or within 5 minutes of that time) it is DQ unless a member of the competition committee has authorised a change of time.

 

[backwoodsman]

As per Jim8flog's answer. You can't just arbitrarily select your own start time if one has been allocated already.

If you are due to start at, say, 9:10 then that's the time you start. If you withdraw, or otherwise don't start (within the 5 min) then that's it. If you withdraw, then you've withdrawn so technically you can't be DQ. But if you tried to play, say, an hour and a half later, then you haven't withdraw , but you are starting ouside the allowable 5 minutes of your scheduled tee time, so will (or should be) DQ. (If the organising committee (whoever 'they' may be) have sanctioned the change, then it would be ok though). You could withdraw & play socially later though.

As some have said though, some clubs might have their own internal rules about late withdrawals - such as barring entry for a set number of future comps. Usually in place at clubs where there's frequently more people wanting to enter than there are places available

 

[3offTheTee]

I think there is confusion still. They withdrew from comp, so the bit that is clear is that they withdrew from their scheduled tee time. However, the bit I'm unsure about is that, when they decided to play later, were they playing a social round, or did they still submit their score as part of the competition? Hopefully 3offTheTee can clarify that, unless I missed it

S1980

Sorry for the delay in replying but the results have just been published. The guy who played later did NOT play in The Comp. my mistake. The reason I thought he may was at 17 he has just gone to +1 and told me the other week he would not go out in wet/ windy weather as he did not want to lose .1!

 

[trevor]

Just been reading through all this, what happens when / if you stop in a halfway hut for a sandwich and coffee. Is this allowed and not classed as delaying play?

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Not a big competition man myself, a seniors stableford couple times a month, but I would have thought the O P scenario was not so much about causing a delay in play for those behind ( though it might), but more the advantage to be gained( scoring wise) by teeing off under the more favourable conditions that are being waited for?
I find the likelihood of hitting as good a tee shot in heavy rain, as opposed to in none, extremely unlikely.
Making a worse shot in heavy rain is really on the cards.
Isn't this the real reason for the rule?
If you were on the course playing socially who could possibly object to someone sheltering from heavy downpour? If someone is that masochistic to want to play on through you, then by all means you should let them.

 

[trevor]

And what if you were coming up to the halfway hut and had no intention of stopping but then it started to rain so you changed your mind.

 

[rulefan]

Just been reading through all this, what happens when / if you stop in a halfway hut for a sandwich and coffee. Is this allowed and not classed as delaying play?

This is what the book says.

Examples of actions that are likely to be treated as reasonable are:

• Briefly stopping by the clubhouse or half-way house to get food or drink.

Examples of actions that, if causing more than a brief delay in play, are likely to be treated as unreasonable delay are:

• Stopping by the clubhouse or half-way house to get food or drink for more than a few minutes if the Committee has not allowed for it.
  

Note the underlined words. The RBs have changed their view since 2018 when stopping for refreshment for an extended period was forbidden.