Tactical or is it even legal or am I reading too much into it?
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duncan mackie
Money List Winner
up until last year we had 2 sets as well - it was good and bad!
the issue we ended up with was that people got confused (apparently) and, more importantly 9 hole stableford events were distorted!
we now have the matchplay indicies as the only ones, which means that some of the harder holes towards the end of the round have higher indicies than they would if they were purely stablford/difficulty related.
as a slight aside, the Australian GU take the allocation of matchplay SIs even further and advocate a fixed approach based on hole number and distribution of indicies/shots completely ignoring difficulty. As pointed out above CONGU started in this same place but have bowed to 'stablforditus' in it's current guidlines.
sJoe
Assistant Pro
Play it. you'r still 2 against 1..it will get to him,,you have the advantage. My partner and I had a similar situation a couple of weeks ago..After 9 holes our opponent was 1 up..we won that back by 12th..this pissed him off and he started trying to hard and his game went to pieces..we won the next 2 holes, he tried even harder, got worse..game over by the 16th..
Kellfire
Blackballed
Norton Golf Course, Stockton-on-Tees
http://www.nortongolfcourse.co.uk
To be fair, it's the sort of course where you can't even book a tee. It's very much the cheap and cheerful municipal type course. I'm not even sure it has members.
rosecott
Money List Winner
Sounds like someone pulled the SI numbers out of a hat.
williamalex1
Money List Winner
ther is the odd course that have , odd mixed with even indexs , shotts g.c in scotland . their 4th hole is rated one of the most difficult in Europe index 1 though the other 8 holesin front nine are even
Curls
Journeyman Pro
Just to follow up this thread...
We went to the pro shop to sort out the handicaps and I was told that the missing players h/c would not be taken into account, I felt like a bit of a **** but said "I looked into it and think it should be", but I couldn't really force the issue with the pro and assistant pro standing there singing from the same hymn sheet. So I was the low h/c and in this comp h/c was limited to 18, so my buddies shots went out the window! He started badly and to be honest wasn't a great help for most of the day but I managed to hold this guy (who clearly wasn't a 16 h/c) most of the way around. Himself and his partner had just won the winter leagues, and he delighted in telling me he got his +0.1 back the day before brining him up to 15.5 (16, so he had a shot on me). My buddy dug me out on a few holes with a couple of halves and one win. No one ever got more than 1 ahead, lead kept switching, I splashed out of a steep bunker to 3 feet to win us the 16th and put us 1 up but missed an easy putt to finish it on the 17th and we halved. It came down to the 18th where I halved from 8 feet to win the match. I played well, probably a few below h/c, but this guy we were playing (bar 1 or 2 blow ups and conceded holes) played like a single figure guy, booming straight long drives and crazy putting and chipping, we were clearly not the same level and I consider myself to be on the way down at the moment but I wasn't nearly as good as this guy, had his buddy been there they would have absolutely trashed us and I'd be feeling pretty sick about the banditing on display, but what can you do?! We won, move onto next round and hopefully now that the winter league champions are out everyone will have a fairer crack of the whip.
Next round will probably be against Domingo Gonzalez and his brother Tiny.
We went to the pro shop to sort out the handicaps and I was told that the missing players h/c would not be taken into account, I felt like a bit of a **** but said "I looked into it and think it should be", but I couldn't really force the issue with the pro and assistant pro standing there singing from the same hymn sheet. So I was the low h/c and in this comp h/c was limited to 18, so my buddies shots went out the window! He started badly and to be honest wasn't a great help for most of the day but I managed to hold this guy (who clearly wasn't a 16 h/c) most of the way around. Himself and his partner had just won the winter leagues, and he delighted in telling me he got his +0.1 back the day before brining him up to 15.5 (16, so he had a shot on me). My buddy dug me out on a few holes with a couple of halves and one win. No one ever got more than 1 ahead, lead kept switching, I splashed out of a steep bunker to 3 feet to win us the 16th and put us 1 up but missed an easy putt to finish it on the 17th and we halved. It came down to the 18th where I halved from 8 feet to win the match. I played well, probably a few below h/c, but this guy we were playing (bar 1 or 2 blow ups and conceded holes) played like a single figure guy, booming straight long drives and crazy putting and chipping, we were clearly not the same level and I consider myself to be on the way down at the moment but I wasn't nearly as good as this guy, had his buddy been there they would have absolutely trashed us and I'd be feeling pretty sick about the banditing on display, but what can you do?! We won, move onto next round and hopefully now that the winter league champions are out everyone will have a fairer crack of the whip.
Next round will probably be against Domingo Gonzalez and his brother Tiny.
pbrown7582
Money List Winner
Congrats on the win Well played must of been quite off puting having to have the debate about shots with the pro and assistant all ganging up on you a classic case for rule book to hand.
Good luck in the next round.
Good luck in the next round.
Ian_S
Challenge Tour Pro
I hope you take a rule book and go and teach your pro a lesson. Congrats on the win.
you won even though it conspired to beat you, well done:thup:
def show the rule to the pro or he will keep getting it wrong and others will suffer. Get a rule book in your bag now! GM gave one away free a few issues ago so no excuses.
def show the rule to the pro or he will keep getting it wrong and others will suffer. Get a rule book in your bag now! GM gave one away free a few issues ago so no excuses.
duncan mackie
Money List Winner
please bring 30-3a/3 to the attention of the pro (quietly), or better still speak to the Rules representative on your club committee.
in this instance the basic rule book wouldn't have been enough as it's in the decisions, although the fact that 30-3 permits the absent player to join at any time is the reason, and in the rules.
well done on your win
in this instance the basic rule book wouldn't have been enough as it's in the decisions, although the fact that 30-3 permits the absent player to join at any time is the reason, and in the rules.
well done on your win
Curls
Journeyman Pro
Thanks all.
And thanks Duncan that's a good solution, as I say we're new at the club and I don't want our early impressions of the pros to be "Thats the snooty fecker that proved us wrong", to be honest I dont get a warm glow from the head pro anyway, but I dont think its me he seems a surly sort. Maybe a letter to the rules rep would be a subtler way of doing it.
Cheers Curls
Curls
Journeyman Pro
Thanks Darth, I have a rule book but for reasons stated I didnt want to look the **** and took the hit, maybe if I was at the club a little longer I would have felt like I could, I thought "not to worry its 2 against 1 we should have him anyway", until he drove greenside on the par 4 1st!
