T20 World Cup

[Tongo]

Everyone's wise with the value of hindsight. I'm sure plenty have the experience of bowling at the sharp end of a world final in front of 60,000 people to some of the most dangerous batsmen in the game. Yeah, piece of cake.

A few days ago Stokes got it bang on against New Zealand, producing some death bowling that turned the game in England's favour. Too many people have short memories.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Stokes got it spot on in previous matches

In hindsight Willey should have bowled the last over but then he could have also been smacked

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Everyone's wise with the value of hindsight. I'm sure plenty have the experience of bowling at the sharp end of a world final in front of 60,000 people to some of the most dangerous batsmen in the game. Yeah, piece of cake.

A few days ago Stokes got it bang on against New Zealand, producing some death bowling that turned the game in England's favour. Too many people have short memories.

Very good point. That final over was always going to have a hero. Shame it wasn't Stokes with the ball but you can't fault the way the West Indies finished it off

 

[Piece]

Everyone's wise with the value of hindsight. I'm sure plenty have the experience of bowling at the sharp end of a world final in front of 60,000 people to some of the most dangerous batsmen in the game. Yeah, piece of cake.

A few days ago Stokes got it bang on against New Zealand, producing some death bowling that turned the game in England's favour. Too many people have short memories.

On the contrary, I would argue that against NZ that performance was the exception not the norm for Stokes. I don't think he is accurate enough and looking at his T20 bowling average for economy & strike rate in this form of cricket, he is definitely down the list compared to his peers.

There is no doubt he is a super talented cricketer, I just think there are better bowlers in the team suited for that job.

 

[fundy]

Finn was injured at the start - so you either see if he can be fit or replace him - can't blame them for not taking Finn. That's nothing but hindsight tbh.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/997971.html

 

[Deleted member 15344]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/997971.html

Surprised he didn't say anything when he got injured - deadline was 8th Feb but anything after 8th March needed ICC approval

http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-world-twenty20-2016/content/story/976861.html

And considering his issues over the winter with a succession of injures still think it's the right choice and disappointing when England cricket is on the up that Finn comes out - but it's against the establishment that you are so much in favour of - so no doubt all good :thup:

 

[Piece]

Surprised he didn't say anything when he got injured - deadline was 8th Feb but anything after 8th March needed ICC approval

http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-world-twenty20-2016/content/story/976861.html

And considering his issues over the winter with a succession of injures still think it's the right choice and disappointing when England cricket is on the up that Finn comes out - but it's against the establishment that you are so much in favour of - so no doubt all good :thup:

Finn having a tiny whinge is the same as Cook when he missed the one day tourno over a year ago. A period of sustained rest should do him a big favour in the long run.

 

[Tongo]

Finn having a tiny whinge is the same as Cook when he missed the one day tourno over a year ago. A period of sustained rest should do him a big favour in the long run.

Not really. Cook was a busted flush in ODI cricket and the format had passed him by and he was only in the team cos he was captain whereas Finn still has something to offer in both 50 over and 20 over cricket.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not really. Cook was a busted flush in ODI cricket and the format had passed him by and he was only in the team cos he was captain whereas Finn still has something to offer in both 50 over and 20 over cricket.

He will do when fully fit - he spent the whole winter picking up injuries and a break could only do him better in the long term. Lots of cricket ahead for him and he will be a big part of that

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Not really. Cook was a busted flush in ODI cricket and the format had passed him by and he was only in the team cos he was captain whereas Finn still has something to offer in both 50 over and 20 over cricket.

Do you see Finnas someone capable at producing it in tests, one day era and T20 giving the injuries or do you think he has more to offer in either tests or limited overs? Not convinced he's ever going to be able to cope with the workload of all formats

 

[Piece]

Not really. Cook was a busted flush in ODI cricket and the format had passed him by and he was only in the team cos he was captain whereas Finn still has something to offer in both 50 over and 20 over cricket.

I don't think he can stretch to all forms, and argue that he is better suited for Test. He desperately, desperately (to use his own words) wants to play Test cricket.

 

[TheDiablo]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/story/997971.html

Surprised he didn't say anything when he got injured - deadline was 8th Feb but anything after 8th March needed ICC approval

http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-world-twenty20-2016/content/story/976861.html

And considering his issues over the winter with a succession of injures still think it's the right choice and disappointing when England cricket is on the up that Finn comes out - but it's against the establishment that you are so much in favour of - so no doubt all good :thup:

Got to agree with LP here.

In the article Fundy posted, Finn himself says he wasnt 100% at the start of the world cup. You can't take a guy without any recent match fitness to a world cup, even more so if he wasnt then 100% for the start of it. Getting through a preseason with Middlesex and competing in a WC are pretty different ends of the scale!

That's not even considering he has had 3 seperate, tour ending injuries in the last 6 months!

England are a better side in all formats with a 100% firing Finn, but you cant carry passengers.

 

[Tongo]

Do you see Finnas someone capable at producing it in tests, one day era and T20 giving the injuries or do you think he has more to offer in either tests or limited overs? Not convinced he's ever going to be able to cope with the workload of all formats

Probably not but he at least has the game to play in all 3 formats. Cook, on the other hand, was an analogue batsman in a digital age when it came to ODI cricket.