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T20 World Cup

Think just need to sort out the spinners - everything else today was pretty solid - good start and then accelerated when needed and the seamers did well - 42 from two different overs of spin shows the issue

Dont be fooled, different parts of England game functions in different games. Most of the side is hit and miss, just a case of hoping enough parts come together on the day. Nice to see the seamers deliver but they are a long way from doing so consistently!

NZ in the semi will be a very tough game, but on the day anything can and probably will happen!
 
Dont be fooled, different parts of England game functions in different games. Most of the side is hit and miss, just a case of hoping enough parts come together on the day. Nice to see the seamers deliver but they are a long way from doing so consistently!

NZ in the semi will be a very tough game, but on the day anything can and probably will happen!

NZ will be big favourites as they have been the team of the tournament.

Food for thought though: NZ have had problems finishing the job in previous tournaments whilst England have found a way to win 3 games when up against it at times. The morale in the dressing room must be fantastic after those results.
 
NZ are team of the event by a way so far. I think England can do it especially with the batting line up. Were the spinners poor for England or was it a case of a country knowing how to play it in this format and doing so well? Think/hope NZ may not be as adept at playing it
 
Dont be fooled, different parts of England game functions in different games. Most of the side is hit and miss, just a case of hoping enough parts come together on the day. Nice to see the seamers deliver but they are a long way from doing so consistently!

NZ in the semi will be a very tough game, but on the day anything can and probably will happen!

Good to see the positivity still shining through ;)

The England side is a world away from 12 months ago now
 
Good to see the positivity still shining through ;)

The England side is a world away from 12 months ago now

I agree, was always going to be when they changed coach, clear as anything! More realistic, the seamers have been poor in some games, good today, same the spinners, same the batters. Its a side thats still learning and still got room to improve greatly. Still think the composition of the attack is wrong, but a big achievement to get the semis in these conditions, anything else a bonus but can definitely beat anyone in a one off game which gives them a chance to win it all!
 
I agree, was always going to be when they changed coach, clear as anything! More realistic, the seamers have been poor in some games, good today, same the spinners, same the batters. Its a side thats still learning and still got room to improve greatly. Still think the composition of the attack is wrong, but a big achievement to get the semis in these conditions, anything else a bonus but can definitely beat anyone in a one off game which gives them a chance to win it all!

What would you do to change the composition?
 
I agree, was always going to be when they changed coach, clear as anything! More realistic, the seamers have been poor in some games, good today, same the spinners, same the batters. Its a side thats still learning and still got room to improve greatly. Still think the composition of the attack is wrong, but a big achievement to get the semis in these conditions, anything else a bonus but can definitely beat anyone in a one off game which gives them a chance to win it all!

Not sure what change can be made with the players they have got out there at the moment - maybe Dawson should have been given a go. Jordan has come back a bit , Willey just needs to think more , Stokes is superb , Plunkett certainly was an improvement on Topley. Shame they didn't take Gregory and maybe Broad should have gone but rather let him rest.
 
One player can have a huge affect on a T20. Mathews did it for Sri Lanka. Buttler did it for England. Game is never safe, but England did well under pressure again, which bodes well for the semi final. Playing at the same ground must be an advantage, so let's be optimistic.:thup:

We fielded well, and Root's catch was a game changer. Catches win matches.;)
 
Not sure what change can be made with the players they have got out there at the moment - maybe Dawson should have been given a go. Jordan has come back a bit , Willey just needs to think more , Stokes is superb , Plunkett certainly was an improvement on Topley. Shame they didn't take Gregory and maybe Broad should have gone but rather let him rest.

didnt mean with the players out there, the fact that Finns bowling in county warm up games not out there a very bad call!

very hard for a coach to pick a player (Dawson) hes never seen play in a competitive game! For a guy who rarely bowls for his county in T20 it was an amazing selection and I expect he was only ever going to get a go if there was an injury
 
Proper seamers not medium pacers, Plunkett been a decent introduction compared to the likes of Topley etc

Plunkett is nice and aggresive, decent pace, and gives the attack something different. Jordan seems to bowl poorly up front but good at the end. Perhaps have Willey and Plunkett open the attack, and have Jordan come on when the fielding restrictions are lifted ? Stokes bowls well at the end, but in the first six overs you need wicket takers bowling, especially on the pitch we played on today.
 
didnt mean with the players out there, the fact that Finns bowling in county warm up games not out there a very bad call!

very hard for a coach to pick a player (Dawson) hes never seen play in a competitive game! For a guy who rarely bowls for his county in T20 it was an amazing selection and I expect he was only ever going to get a go if there was an injury

Finn was injured at the start - so you either see if he can be fit or replace him - can't blame them for not taking Finn. That's nothing but hindsight tbh.
 
Plunkett is nice and aggresive, decent pace, and gives the attack something different. Jordan seems to bowl poorly up front but good at the end. Perhaps have Willey and Plunkett open the attack, and have Jordan come on when the fielding restrictions are lifted ? Stokes bowls well at the end, but in the first six overs you need wicket takers bowling, especially on the pitch we played on today.

still not convinced with Stokes in white ball cricket, today was a massive improvement but generally hes struggled in the white ball game compared to with the red ball, probably due to his natural length, especially in southern hemisphere conditions
 
still not convinced with Stokes in white ball cricket, today was a massive improvement but generally hes struggled in the white ball game compared to with the red ball, probably due to his natural length, especially in southern hemisphere conditions

It was the number of wides Jordan seemed to bowl today that I thought was a concern
 
still not convinced with Stokes in white ball cricket, today was a massive improvement but generally hes struggled in the white ball game compared to with the red ball, probably due to his natural length, especially in southern hemisphere conditions
Doesn't look like he is going to take a lot of wickets, but his yorkers at the end are decent. He also bowls at a fair pace. When he experiments he can go teh distance, so needs to be kept to a simple game plan.

I think are seam attack is as good as anyones, so we just need to keep playing on the type of wicket we did today. All offer something slightly different, and of course they can all bat.
 
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