Rlburnside
Challenge Tour Pro
How’s the h/c work for Gent, Wife and 2 juniors for a Texas Sramble.
T/S for Gent Wife + 2 juniors
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backwoodsman
Tour Winner
Badly I suspect ... 
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
I suspect (guess) you'd just get course handicaps for each, as usual, then apply the recommended Texas Scramble calc for 4 players, i.e 25% / 20% / 15% / 10% from the lowest to highest handicap
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Should be no different than any other combination of team set up
Rlburnside
Challenge Tour Pro
Badly I suspect ...
I suspect ours was done differently, I’m 20 h/c and the team that was 1st and 2nd had a 5 and 4 h/c in their team and their h/c was only 1 less than ours.
Swango1980
Well-known member
Not sure anybody can analyse that, unless they know the handicaps of all players in each team. The teams with 4 and 5 handicappers might also have had 50 handicappers
I suspect ours was done differently, I’m 20 h/c and the team that was 1st and 2nd had a 5 and 4 h/c in their team and their h/c was only 1 less than ours.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Does your club ignore current allowances and just 10% of combined?
I suspect ours was done differently, I’m 20 h/c and the team that was 1st and 2nd had a 5 and 4 h/c in their team and their h/c was only 1 less than ours.
Did they give additional shots to allow for the difference in tees used where appropriate?
rulefan
Tour Winner
Many clubs seem to be ignoring the WHS recommendations for scrambles and continuing with the old popular convention of 10% across the board.
I suspect ours was done differently, I’m 20 h/c and the team that was 1st and 2nd had a 5 and 4 h/c in their team and their h/c was only 1 less than ours.
D-S
Well-known member
They’re not recommendations in England, they’re mandatory.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Before we make assumptions about the OP's club, maybe he should let us know the handicaps of all 8 players as we can't guess the other 5
rulefan
Tour Winner
Is the club in England?
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If the club do them manually there is nothing that can be done
It’s something that we are looking at and also other clubs.
I know multiple players of lower HCs are stopping playing in them
Neilds
Assistant Pro
We played T/S for Capt day this weekend and introduced the rule where the person whose shot was chosen couldn’t play that shot . Really evened up the scoring
Swango1980
Well-known member
Think that is called a Florida Scramble
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
We used that in our regular monthly mixed scramble for years.
It does help to stop the ladies from always wanting to take the longest drive when they cannot reach in regulation but a man could using the ladies ball.
Rlburnside
Challenge Tour Pro
Not sure anybody can analyse that, unless they know the handicaps of all players in each team. The teams with 4 and 5 handicappers might also have had 50 handicappers
Club in Scotland , 2 juniors in each team were primary age teams the 4 and 5 handicappers had a lower h/c than our team, and I’m 20 h/c.
There were no 50 h/c as they capped them at number I can’t remember, I think they added h/cs and divided by 20
The single figure guys basically play most of the second shots and the junior tees are that far forward that it didn’t make much difference to them.
I know it’s only a fun day for the kids but at least make it equitable.
9 hole competition 2 drives each 1 spare,
Rlburnside
Challenge Tour Pro
Yes, no and no
rulefan
Tour Winner
On an admittedly small sample, we have found that Florida scramble together with the WHS recommended allowances produces closer scores than 10% or Texas.
IslaG
Member
You would enjoy reading about the 2E handicap system for scrambles and Ambrose. Denis Toohey applied his chemical engineering and mathematical background and has spent countless hours experimenting with weightings for players in handicap order, charting results data, thinking through the logic and then using dozens of actual events to verify his findings: the way ambrose teams are handicapped is flat-out wrong! We have swapped to his weighings and it seems much fairer Article here: https://www.australiangolfdigest.com.au/a-score-to-settle/
THE 2e METHOD VERSUS OTHERS
The 2e method recommendations are:
4 players: 40%A + 20%B + 10%C + 5%D (total of 75%)
3 players: 45%A + 20%B + 15%C (total of 80%)
2 players: 50%A + 35%B (total of 85%)
where A to D represent low to high handicaps in order.
THE 2e METHOD VERSUS OTHERS
The 2e method recommendations are:
4 players: 40%A + 20%B + 10%C + 5%D (total of 75%)
3 players: 45%A + 20%B + 15%C (total of 80%)
2 players: 50%A + 35%B (total of 85%)
where A to D represent low to high handicaps in order.
Alan Clifford
Well-known member
Strange that the numbers are all multiples of 5, such as 45, 20, 10. With all that analysis, you expect numbers like 37.645894.
