Summer yardage differences

[welshjim22]

So guys played 18 yesterday with my new handicap of 19 scored 29 points. Problem was i started off shanking every iron for the first three holes and then struggled with distance. Normally i check yardage know exactly what club would get there if hit well and then choose club based on hazards i will find if hit badly. I normally when playing well hit a 5-iron 150yds. On a par 3 yesterday we were stood about 5 yards behind the tee box marker shows 164yds. So i thought 5 iron will miss hazards left and right and probably roll on to bottom of green where as hybrid was going to find trouble. I hit a beauty u know the ones where u look at the ball look at flag and realise your going straight at it. Sadly ball missed green and the rest of the golf course by flying straight into trees behind green. So now i am walking round second guessing myself about yardages. This is a problem that has been occuring ever since the good weather started. strangely never noticed any extra carry difference in previous summers only extra roll.

In summary what sort of average extra yardage do you guys get with irons in the summer.

 

[FourPutt]

I tend to get about 5 yards more carry with a 7 iron and a bit more roll too. Total about 10-15 yards longer than when it's boggy in the winter. With a driver than can translate to 20-30 yards more and a wedge only a few yards difference.

 

[upsidedown]

Definitely, ball travels further in warmer temps through the air and also more carry on firmer fairways.

Today here it was only 12 degrees so this equates to taking one club more then you would for temps in 20's

 

[Matty]

Try not to get too hung up on one shot. I've hit a 5 iron and airmailed a green by a good 20 yards OOB. This was down to that freak event of making a perfect contact with the ball and really compressing it with a resulting massive distance.

I know I do this rarely and under normal circumstances I don't hit the ball anywhere near that well. I have an idea what my distance are but also know that occasionally I'll connect really well and have a chip back as a result!

 

[Whee]

Winter has gone from 15-20 degrees out here, and we're just starting to touch the high 30's.

7 iron in winter 145, 7 iron in Summer 160.

 

[bigbazzaboy]

Suffered the opposite effect in winter. 155 yard par 3,usually a 7 iron so clubbed up to a 6 iron. Picked the pin out perfectly,stood posing waiting on it landing close only to have the smug look wiped off my face when it died mid-flight and dropped a good 10 yards short of the green.

 

[Mike_j_golf]

I find there is at least 8/9 yards on my irons winter full 9 is 140 now its 150 so i'm using 1 club less took a few rounds to adjust to change of distance lots of 3 putts from back of the green's before i coped on. A lot of it could have to do with us being warmer having less layers on so we are swinging more freely therefore getting the extra distance.
Mike

 

[Imurg]

I've posted the Science before but here goes again..
Golf Balls are designed to work best at 70*F.
Above this temperature there is no dramatic change in distance achieved for a given shot.
For every 3 degrees F below 70, you lose 1 yard of distance for the same given shot, purely down to the temperature.
So at 70*F (21C) lets say you hit a shot 200 yards.
At 40F (4.4C) that same shot will travel 190 yards purely down to the temperature - 30* @1 yard per 3* = 10 yards.
Add into that the "clothing" factor and any other factor you may have, it's easy to see how you can be 20 yards shorter in Winter than in Summer for the same shot.

 

[welshjim22]

Thanks lads. I appreciate the freak shot comment that they all tend to go further sometimes. In fact that very day i hit my driver throught a par 4 green. Normally i hit 200yds with Driver, alot less than a good wood, on this occassion we played off different tees so only 245, starts over water, to green. other tee i think the hole is 315-320. I have in general though been hitting all irons longer than normal when, the 5 iron i refer to was freaky long for me but used example to illustrate problem. I seem to be having a phase where i can hit irons well.

It would seem i am hitting about the same as you guys about about 10-12 yds on average longer. Probably just play safe with shorter clubs as at my club u can generally recover well around greens with only a few exceptions.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Nothing like a bit of science to get in the way of a good debate. I've not seen that before though, it's an interesting post.

 

[Del]

Been hitting about 10/15 yrds extra over the last few days, not sure if all down to the weather as I have had a block of 5 lessons over the last few weeks as well, but it does mean I have to re-think my yardage all over again.

 

[feary]

doesn't matter too much for timgolfy, he is only chipping onto every par 4.

 

[Golfmmad]

It's a well known fact that the ball travels further in the Summer, and has certainly been the case in my game of late.

What baffles me is, how can you guys know, almost exactly it seems, how much further your ball travels?

When I hit my shot all I think about after it is, what do I need next and how to execute the shot, not how much further it travels than when the weather is colder.
Just don't think it necessary to dwell on distances from past games. Or have I got it all wrong and need to think about the game in a different way to how I do now?

Golfmmad.

 

[bigbazzaboy]

It's a well known fact that the ball travels further in the Summer, and has certainly been the case in my game of late.

What baffles me is, how can you guys know, almost exactly it seems, how much further your ball travels?

When I hit my shot all I think about after it is, what do I need next and how to execute the shot, not how much further it travels than when the weather is colder.
Just don't think it necessary to dwell on distances from past games. Or have I got it all wrong and need to think about the game in a different way to how I do now?

Golfmmad.

Nobody is saying dwell on past problems but learning from them is essential,especially when it comes to knowing how far you need to hit the ball to get it on the green. Whats worse,taking a minute to work out what club you need to be hitting or taking an extra shot 10 yards short of the green or a further drop when you're off the back in the trees?

 

[RGDave]

Whatever FourPutt said is my answer too.



Usually, I seem to be able to choose a club in a split second with only a vague yardage. In the summer, I take more care. It's not so much the carry, but the roll, especially if I've got a bag full of 2-piece rocks.

That reminds me, I need to sort some balls out ASAP.

 

[Golfmmad]

It's a well known fact that the ball travels further in the Summer, and has certainly been the case in my game of late.

What baffles me is, how can you guys know, almost exactly it seems, how much further your ball travels?

When I hit my shot all I think about after it is, what do I need next and how to execute the shot, not how much further it travels than when the weather is colder.
Just don't think it necessary to dwell on distances from past games. Or have I got it all wrong and need to think about the game in a different way to how I do now?

Golfmmad.

Nobody is saying dwell on past problems but learning from them is essential,especially when it comes to knowing how far you need to hit the ball to get it on the green. Whats worse,taking a minute to work out what club you need to be hitting or taking an extra shot 10 yards short of the green or a further drop when you're off the back in the trees?

I didn't mention, "Dwelling on past problems", just distances.

For me, I tend to think, I'll take a 7 iron instead of a 6, rather than thinking of it in yardages.

Golfmmad.

 

[bigbazzaboy]

It's a well known fact that the ball travels further in the Summer, and has certainly been the case in my game of late.

What baffles me is, how can you guys know, almost exactly it seems, how much further your ball travels?

When I hit my shot all I think about after it is, what do I need next and how to execute the shot, not how much further it travels than when the weather is colder.
Just don't think it necessary to dwell on distances from past games. Or have I got it all wrong and need to think about the game in a different way to how I do now?

Golfmmad.

Nobody is saying dwell on past problems but learning from them is essential,especially when it comes to knowing how far you need to hit the ball to get it on the green. Whats worse,taking a minute to work out what club you need to be hitting or taking an extra shot 10 yards short of the green or a further drop when you're off the back in the trees?

I didn't mention, "Dwelling on past problems", just distances.

For me, I tend to think, I'll take a 7 iron instead of a 6, rather than thinking of it in yardages.

Golfmmad.

Surely misjudging yardages is a problem? And it doesn't matter what club you've got in your hand if you haven't properly evaluated how far the ball needs to be hit.

 

[Golfmmad]

It's a well known fact that the ball travels further in the Summer, and has certainly been the case in my game of late.

What baffles me is, how can you guys know, almost exactly it seems, how much further your ball travels?

When I hit my shot all I think about after it is, what do I need next and how to execute the shot, not how much further it travels than when the weather is colder.
Just don't think it necessary to dwell on distances from past games. Or have I got it all wrong and need to think about the game in a different way to how I do now?

Golfmmad.

Nobody is saying dwell on past problems but learning from them is essential,especially when it comes to knowing how far you need to hit the ball to get it on the green. Whats worse,taking a minute to work out what club you need to be hitting or taking an extra shot 10 yards short of the green or a further drop when you're off the back in the trees?

I didn't mention, "Dwelling on past problems", just distances.

For me, I tend to think, I'll take a 7 iron instead of a 6, rather than thinking of it in yardages.

Golfmmad.

Surely misjudging yardages is a problem? And it doesn't matter what club you've got in your hand if you haven't properly evaluated how far the ball needs to be hit.

Golfmmad.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I know what distance I hit each club (well on average) having spent time measuring them. However I recognise ath they will fly further as there will be more roll on landing anyway. I've never subscribed to one club being the right club from say 150 yards. It depends on the lie, the pin placement, wind and whether I need to carry it onto the green or can afford to land short.

I use my SC to give me a close approximation (we all know it doesn't measure like a laser) and decide from there. I have to be honest and say the warmer weather last weekend certainly meant the ball flew further as well (as my air mailed tee shot on the 8th proved) and so on average I was clubbing down one

 

[chrisd]

I usually work on the basis of one club less in the summer to winter then add or subtract according to conditions, wind etc



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