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I'd like to see that in writing please, because I'm 100% sure you're wrong?
Submitting 2 cards from one round
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D-S
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If you are just questioning the need for pre registration will this do?
From the Rules of Handicapping
Swango1980
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I think BB was referring to the fact you simply cannot submit a score for handicap from a 4BBB game. You can't pre-register, and then assume it is OK.
I'm assuming rulefan was not necessarily referring to the fact it is allowed, but more specifically dealing with the issue of someone being happy a score goes in if a player wants to get their handicap down. So, I think rulefan was simply stating this to highlight that the player wouldn't know what score they get ahead of the round, even if scores could be submitted from 4BBB
jim8flog
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One of the things that we are about to crack down on is players putting in scores after playing without preregistering. Easily found out by comparing booked tee time with time of sign up, signing up when there would clearly be insufficient time to play a round etc.
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Jigger
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That doesn’t matter. to clarify I was meaning that the intent is genuine.You're not going to get pelted for your action, you've not committed an evil sin
However, as it is a Rules forum, I presume posters want the official.guidance, rather what individual golfers are happy to do themselves. And, the official guidance is a firm "no, you cannot do it" in the UK.
Some handicap secretaries might crack down on it firmly, if they know it is happening. Others might ignore it completely, and have your attitude (or just never know about it).
Also, the question I'd ask.you is this: if the player submits a score, they won't know if it will be good or bad before the round. You say you would be happy if it was to.get their handicap down, but what if it was a bad score and their handicap went up?
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no, I'm questioning the assertion that you can submit a card from a 4BBB round, in Scotland, Wales, Ireland & England, you can't.
D-S
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This is from England Golf under the heading Acceptable Score Submissions for Handicap Purposes, the highlighted point supports your view:-
In summary, golfers are required to:
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Declare their intent to submit a score via the England Golf app, or via the relevant process defined at the club where the round will be played.
Be in the company of at least one other person, who can act as a marker (subject to satisfying other Rules of Golf requirements).
Always follow the Rules of Golf.
Play over a tee set with a current Course Rating and Slope Rating, where length and normal playing difficulty is maintained and consistent.
Scores must be pre-registered on the day of play prior to the round, by the means established by the Handicap Committee.
In an authorised format of play (individual formats only) over a minimum number of holes.
Swango1980
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That statement proves BB to be correct. The context of his statement was that it was wrong in 4BBB, which he clarified in post 66.
I'm pretty sure that BB is aware that pre-registration is a requirement for authorised formats of play.
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Again, it also matters that they pre-register. Please, if you're going to give handicap advice, at least have read up on what the requirements are.
Jigger
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I wasn’t giving handicap advice. I was suggesting what may be possible. Please, if you’re going to pick apart people’s comments at least try and think about the angle they may be coming from!
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OK, well it's specifically not possible. It is in relation to submitting cards for handicap, so it is handicap advice, and you're wrong on both points.
rulefan
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The player would have to declare it before play of course.
I was pointing out that if a player wished to (illegally or not) return a score from a 4BBB they would have to register their intent.
Jigger
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I disagree. depending on who the comp is administered it would be possible for the second player to submit a score on myeg. If not picked up by someone it would go through. Now that might have changed with more recent upgrades but it was possible So my statement was correct in that it could actually be done.
also, my personal opinion of whether I’d call it out or not is my opinion and irrelevant to the discussion so I’m not wrong and by no means have I advised a player of a course of action about their handicap management.
then looking above, you like to just tell people they are wrong don’t you. It’s a forum not an official rules committee and people are entitled to discuss their opinions.
Jigger
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Told you I’d need my tin hat! ???You're not going to get pelted for your action, you've not committed an evil sin
However, as it is a Rules forum, I presume posters want the official.guidance, rather what individual golfers are happy to do themselves. And, the official guidance is a firm "no, you cannot do it" in the UK.
Some handicap secretaries might crack down on it firmly, if they know it is happening. Others might ignore it completely, and have your attitude (or just never know about it).
Also, the question I'd ask.you is this: if the player submits a score, they won't know if it will be good or bad before the round. You say you would be happy if it was to.get their handicap down, but what if it was a bad score and their handicap went up?
D-S
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I think we have clearly shown that it is not a valid score for handicapping. If the score is submitted and the player is aware of it then it is deliberately breaking a rule of handicapping (some might describe this as cheating), there are no two ways about it. If the player is unaware of this rule but others are then they are complicit.
If you dislike this rule or any one of the many many others, fine but it does not alter the case.
If you dislike this rule or any one of the many many others, fine but it does not alter the case.
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This sub-forum is "The Rules of Golf" section, people post here looking for correct answers, and to the OP, he's looking for that correct answer, can you put in a score in a 4BBB round, the answer is a hard NO.
The fact you could make up a score on the App is neither here nor there, anyone at any time can simply log 18 holes of whatever score they wish as I'm sure he knows, which is why he was asking whether he is allowed to, that's the folly of GP scores and scores allowed via an App
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Nope, I was browsing this topic wondering how it had got to 4 pages, when the definitive answer was given in post 2, yet here you were giving false advice 6 weeks later
D-S
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You not only have to ‘make up a score on the App’, you have to be at the course when you do and then get it attested by someone else. Shortly the marker will also have to be at the course too. Cheaters are always going to cheat, but at least they have to work at it and have an equally cheating mate too.
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Yes I am aware of that obviously, but easily done, I'm less than 100 yds from the 18th fairway of my away club, I could sit in my living room and fire in scores at will. I'm not a fan as you may have guessed
D-S
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I see that! However, having the marker needing to be there too is, I think, a step in the right direction.Yes I am aware of that obviously, but easily done, I'm less than 100 yds from the 18th fairway of my away club, I could sit in my living room and fire in scores at will. I'm not a fan as you may have guessed
