AnneLB
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Can I play in a Betterball round, putting out on every hole, and submit a casual card at same time?
Submitting 2 cards from one round
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doublebogey7
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Not in England I'm afraid, Rounds played in teams are not acceptable for handicapping.
Colin L
Tour Winner
One snag is, Anne, that in your better ball game you can give to and take advice from your partner. Your general play score has to be played according to the rules for singles strokeplay which does not allow you to give advice to another player in the competition who is playing at the time or ask for advice from anyone [Rule 10.2a].
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
and as another point in better ball players will often play out of turn so the person going second can learn form their partners shot. Playing out of turn is not allowed if it is being done to gain an advantage.
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....and the others will love it if you keep playing on, long after your partner has won the hole! 
YandaB
Newbie
What is this "turn" that you speak of? I thought that we were all playing ready golf?
Neilds
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In 4bbb, the pair can play in any order. Also, no ready golf in match play (if this is a match, not enough info in OP)
Swango1980
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I think the point was that partners can play "out of turn" to specifically assist the other player, rather than simply a reason to save time.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
as per my post please be aware that in Ready Golf you cannot play out of 'turn' if you are doing so to gain an advantage.
Rule 6.4b
There is no penalty if a player plays out of turn, except that if two or more players agree to play out of turn to give one of them an advantage, each of them gets the general penalty (two penalty strokes).
rulie
Head Pro
In match play, if an opponent plays “ready golf” and plays when you are away, you have the option of recalling his stroke and have it played in the correct order.
Ok. But if the match is played according to the rules of singles golf, with no playing out of turn, or giving advice, and all holed out - even though different actions could be taken as far as the matchplay goes - in theory the singles card could be submitted, as its a legal singles round ?
I would assume not. But what rules does it fall foul of then, if the ones you have listed here are not breached ?
I would assume not. But what rules does it fall foul of then, if the ones you have listed here are not breached ?
Swango1980
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The Rules of Handicapping, in the UK, specifically do not allow a card to be submitted from match play..
OnTour
Head Pro
thus we continue with 50pts pairs events
shame the system hasn't been adapted to fit PAIRS scores into the process.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
They can be looked at but caution is required during annual reviews. The bigger problem are BB scores in opens.thus we continue with 50pts pairs events
doublebogey7
Head Pro
Totally agree, I'm sure this will happen, some day hopefully soon.thus we continue with 50pts pairs events
doublebogey7
Head Pro
Agreed again, but this will also be solved if we allow 4ball and match play rounds to be acceptable rounds for handicap.
Swango1980
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Mainly due to restrictions in the UK, rather than the overall system.thus we continue with 50pts pairs events
Mind you, I can imagine some sneaky pairs would either score on the hole, otherwise put themselves down for a blob
rulie
Head Pro
Shouldn’t BB pairs score a lot better than singles? Is 50 pts for pairs BB obscene or close to normal?
Old Skier
Tour Winner
We had this once, funny that the biggest moaners were those that came second with 48. I kid you not.
rulie
Head Pro
Play harder and practice more.
