Suarez .................. utter disgrace?
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bladeplayer
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Just curious if your thoughts on Henry changed when he cheated France into the world Cup finals in the playoffs .. totaly curious thats all
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Or Tony Adams and Paul Merson,in fact add George Graham to that list.......
Stuey01
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the man is a legend of the club and rightly so.
He got away with murder for France that game and it was a shame. He hardly has a comparable history of consistent questionable behaviour so I see the comparison as a bit of a reach to be honest.
Stuey01
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So if there has been bad behaviour in the past is it carte blanche for excusing it in the future? That's an odd view in my book.
I'd prefer it if the players at the club I support weren't complete d'bags, regardless of whether previous generations of players had been in the past.
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So did you want those players who behaved badly including one who was sent down to leave the club ?
If Arsenal did get Suarez you would win the league at a canter - are you seriously telling me you wouldn't want that ?
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God no mate i want comparing the 2 in the least , chalk & cheese , i was just curious ,
My take on it , i hated him for a month , but then realised if it was an Irish player that had done it , id have said thats what the officials are there for ,up to them to call it the same as any rule infringement
No comparison meant
Stuey01
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When Tony Adams went to prison I was 10 years old. I can't remember what my thoughts on it at the time were.
Regarding the second part, yes that is the gist of my post, I thought it was fairly clear apologies if it was not. I don't really care if you agree or even believe me.
I'm not singling out Suarez here, I'd feel the same about many of the a'holes that inhabit the upper echelons of football these days. It's just he was the one Wenger tried to sign this summer and the one I was relieved we didn't get.
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Kellfire
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I love when people come out with ridiculous, unproveable absolutes like this.
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So if an Arsenal player did something that required strong punishment or a blatent handball to stop a goal or a blatent dive or deliberate high tackle - take your pick at any event - then would you want the player gone ?
There is very minimal players out there that are squeaky clean and Wlishire is a prime example - he is from Hitchin and I know a teacher from his school and also people around him still - he is far from being a good boy ( very far ). There are a lot of skeletons in your closet
Slime
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I'm sorry Phil, but that's a silly comparison in my book.
At least blatant handball, diving and high tackles are football related, not that I condone them, but they ARE football related ................. biting an opponent is not.
I'm with Stuey01 on this. There's a big difference between cheating and eating.
Slime.
It is in Rugby Football :smirk:
Slime
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Thanks for that, however we're talking about Association Football ...................... or football as it's known throughout the non-pedantic world.
Slime.
P.S. I was maybe a bit pedantic there.
Stuey01
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I'm talking about consistent unrepentant bad behaviour, not isolated incidents. If there were such a player at Arsenal I would not be happy about it, and I certainly don't want the club signing players with a known history of it.
Innuendo about Wilshere from school? Are you serious?
He looked to be going down a bad path a season or so ago, getting into trouble about town, but APPEARS to have cleaned up his act, I hope it sticks.
I'll give you an example from another sport. I am a Northampton Saints rugby fan. There is a young player there called Calum Clark, he recently came back from a 32 week ban for breaking an opponents arm, deliberately. He also has a history of other violent on field incidents. He is now back and playing very well. I would prefer that he had been sacked by the club, and if I had my way he would never play rugby again and would have done time for what he did.
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So you don't believe in giving people chances then or is there a certain limit they reach ?
Stuey01
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That's a leap.
Did you not read the bit where I said consistent and unrepentant?
I'm done discussing this with you. You just look to have an argument in very thread and frankly I have better things to do.
It must be great up on that moral high ground.
Those same folk must have been disgusted when England persisted in playing Gazza after pasting his wife......
Those same folk must have been disgusted when England persisted in playing Gazza after pasting his wife......
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Just curious as a Liverpool fan why do you care what anyone else feels you must see that his cheating is worse than anyone elses add in the biting the racism you must see that he is "special" the question has to be why do you feel the need to defend the un defendable are you trying to convince yourself that he isn't that bad?
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you really need to stop defending Mr racist arm biter. Yes he's a great footballer, but an awful person!
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