And I'll add..... a lot of folk appear to know the Liverpool player personally.
Suarez .................. utter disgrace?
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Not arguing just trying to understand stand points on morals in a sport where there is very little - your opinion of some of your own clubs legends must be very low
Football must really get on your nerves with such high morals
Oh Wilshire just been charged by the FA :thup:
Captainron
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Suarez is a good footballer but will never be respected as a person by anyone who has seen how he conducts himself on a field.
Stuey01
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This is a weird game of one-upmanship you are playing.
Yes I see Wilshere has been charged by the FA, and if he did do what has been alleged then he's an idiot. I don't feel any need to defend his actions.
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It's not any game - it's highlighting that it's extremely hard to have morals when it comes to football
No one has defended the actions of Suarez - they were wrong and he was rightly punished - he deserved his ten game ban for biting Ivanovic - I hope he finally learns his lesson and lets his feet do his talking. At times he has let himself and the club down and the fans have let him know that it is unacceptable behaviour from him - he has had two strikes so far and one more and it could possibly be the end and him sold
But if Arsenal had bought him - what exactly would you have done ? Stop supporting them ? Would you have celebrated if he scored , if his goals would have fired you to the title would you have celebrated ? It's a testing time.
Andy808
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This thread has this written all over it!
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Indeed
Liverbirdie
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Paddy - still haven't answered:-
guest100718, when Suarez was an Ajax player, it is generally agreed that it was a close thing between Liverpool and Spurs.
Parking the "is he a rascist/isn't he" on one side, for once.
He had already been banned in Holland for biting another player, and the Ghana incident had already happened.I don't remember any massive uproar, burning of Suarez effigies on the seven sisters, pictures of spurs fans threatening to rip up their season tickets in the papers.
Ok people don't like Suarez as a person, neither do lots of Liverpool fans actually, but as a football and LFC fan, he is sublime and a genius on the football field. Don't like him as a rival, fair enough. does it make it right to excuse and bend the rules to suit who someone kicks? Some people have said the Mirallas's and the Spurs player's nipple high challenge wasn't a red. Why? cos it's Suarez, I tell thee.
But spare me the "holier than thou" claptrap about people ripping up season tickets/stopping going if he was their player.
If Arsenal had signed him and they were 10 points clear of anyone, would most of them conveniently forget (or forgive) about past misdemeanours...bloody right they would.
In the 1970's/1980-1990's do you think none of your teams players ever racially abused a fellow player, did you take to task the thousands of "singers" in kops and ends up and down the country for their rascist songs. Did you stop going to the matches then?
JCW
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Look the guy is a winner , if you want to win you need guys like him in the team , woods , Faldo and dare I say it Warner in the aussie cricket team , how he never played much over here in the summer is beyond me , as for the guy who said he never be respected , wrong , he is respected as a footballer ........ make no mistake about that ....................EYG
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I dont know what you want me to answer...
The OP asks if Suarez is an utter disgrace, The answer is a resounding yes with plenty of evidence to back it up.
Using other examples of footballers who are are equally detestable as a defence doesnt change the above.
If you want to discuss issues in football then start a thread about it.
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Gotta love football fans...... it's amazing how someones footballing opinions can make you lose respect for them.
MadAdey
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Suarez, a disgrace? He has been a disgrace and let himself and his club down at times. Disgrace on Sunday against spurs not at all. He took a deliberate kick to the chest that was a set of studs not the top of a boot. Who on here would stand there and be able to take that sort of impact to the chest. He was sublime on Sunday, his 2 goals were world class and his overall team performance was second to none.
football is full of people that are a disgrace. You have the extremes of players doing the things that Suarez does to the other end where players are diving to get penalties. Players are always doing something to let themself down and some of those have already been mentioned.
people need to get over it and move on. Any united fans on here? There players several years ago (Neville etc) where a collective disgrace the way they use to chase refs to try and influence their decisions. What about the Leeds players and the racial incident at the nightclub? Players driving cars at breakneck speeds through city centres and getting away with it. Assault and rape charges that get dropped.
modern day players can be a his grace both on and off the pitch.
football is full of people that are a disgrace. You have the extremes of players doing the things that Suarez does to the other end where players are diving to get penalties. Players are always doing something to let themself down and some of those have already been mentioned.
people need to get over it and move on. Any united fans on here? There players several years ago (Neville etc) where a collective disgrace the way they use to chase refs to try and influence their decisions. What about the Leeds players and the racial incident at the nightclub? Players driving cars at breakneck speeds through city centres and getting away with it. Assault and rape charges that get dropped.
modern day players can be a his grace both on and off the pitch.
Robobum
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I watched the Liverpool documentary series. The limited stuff that had Suarez on it showed him to be a very quiet family man devoted to his children.
Admittedly it was a Kop promotional film, but he looks a decent human being to me.
If you can't separate the game from the individuals then you need to take off your club shaded blinkers - hate the game not the player.
PS - Greeeeeen Arrrrmy supporter, so no allegiances
Admittedly it was a Kop promotional film, but he looks a decent human being to me.
If you can't separate the game from the individuals then you need to take off your club shaded blinkers - hate the game not the player.
PS - Greeeeeen Arrrrmy supporter, so no allegiances
Birchy
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I would love Suarez in my team, class player. Im not influenced by how crap we are either, I would still have him if we were decent. 
Some of his actions on a football field have been a disgrace I think we can all agree on that. People do often turn into a "different animal" when they enter a sporting arena. Anybody who has played that kind of sport will know sometimes when your in that zone you do crazy stuff. I remember when I played football and rugby it was take the ball off your opponent and leave something on them if you can etc. This doesn't make his actions right but I think judging him totally as a person over his actions on a football field may be wrong.
If people knew the guy off the field they would be hugely surprised. Would people rather he be nice on the football pitch and then go home and knock seven bells out of his wife?
I think sometimes people forget that professional sportspeople are trained to win at all costs in a lot of sports and this can tip them over the edge.
Some of his actions on a football field have been a disgrace I think we can all agree on that. People do often turn into a "different animal" when they enter a sporting arena. Anybody who has played that kind of sport will know sometimes when your in that zone you do crazy stuff. I remember when I played football and rugby it was take the ball off your opponent and leave something on them if you can etc. This doesn't make his actions right but I think judging him totally as a person over his actions on a football field may be wrong.
If people knew the guy off the field they would be hugely surprised. Would people rather he be nice on the football pitch and then go home and knock seven bells out of his wife?
I think sometimes people forget that professional sportspeople are trained to win at all costs in a lot of sports and this can tip them over the edge.
Slime
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I would love Suarez in my team, class player. Im not influenced by how crap we are either, I would still have him if we were decent.
Some of his actions on a football field have been a disgrace I think we can all agree on that. People do often turn into a "different animal" when they enter a sporting arena. Anybody who has played that kind of sport will know sometimes when your in that zone you do crazy stuff. I remember when I played football and rugby it was take the ball off your opponent and leave something on them if you can etc. This doesn't make his actions right but I think judging him totally as a person over his actions on a football field may be wrong.
If people knew the guy off the field they would be hugely surprised. Would people rather he be nice on the football pitch and then go home and knock seven bells out of his wife?
I think sometimes people forget that professional sportspeople are trained to win at all costs in a lot of sports and this can tip them over the edge.
Are you being serious?
Can't a player be nice both on and off the football pitch?
Slime.
Birchy
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Yes they can and some are but not many
. Judging somebody as a person off what they do in a sporting arena though is just wrong in my view and definitely wrong in this case.
Slime
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Yes they can and some are but not many
Judging somebody as a person off what they do in a sporting arena though is just wrong in my view and definitely wrong in this case.
So, if he bit you during a football match you'd think that was okay because he came accross as a nice quiet family man in a documentary you once watched?
Is that what you're saying, or did I read your post wrongly?
Slime.
Robobum
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No but I'd sort it out on the pitch.
Birchy
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No I would think he was a little **** and want him sent off. What happens in the sporting arena though is completely different to outside. Nowhere did I say what he did was ok though.
Where have a I mentioned a documentary? I don't need to watch tv to know what he is like as a person off the pitch. Get your facts right before you start twisting my posts.
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