Staying hydrated on the course

[jim8flog]

Ah right. Well it's a multifunctional drink. Can be happily consumed on and off the course.

I have always found it more of a dysfunctional drink

 

[Jimaroid]

I am one of those people who starts to get the shakes and dizzy spells if I do not eat and drink on a regular basis. I also get gout if I get dehydrated. One the things the nurses tell me (and some of my mates with the same condition have been told) is to drink on a regular basis to help avoid it.

Yep totally fair point, people are different. My obvious disdain for some nutrition advice in this thread is due to issues like that. What might work for one person doesn't for all.

 

[drdel]

Usually take a bottle of water and a bottle of diet irn bru. Have noticed a few times that in an important/close match I get caught up and hardly drink anything which obviously isn't going to help performance.

Was a consultant to Barrs a few years back. Taxi driver taking me back to Glasgow airport reckoned he was getting an intravenous drip fitted for IrnBru. ???

 

[Golfman15]

If you are thirsty then you need to drink if not then you don’t
We all managed fine before energy drinks were invented, they were developed for high performance athletes not golfers. Eating and drinking for club golfers in the UK is for comfort only

 

[Siolag]

I know. Many people don’t and can still perform very well though. I’ll use an energy gel on my bike sometimes when I’m eventing or out on a long day in the hills. But its more due to the light packable weight that I use them. A slice of cake would be just as good but it doesn’t travel as well.

No one runs a marathon well on nothing. Most people take well in excess of 4 hours to run a marathon. No one has glycogen stores that can last that long when exercising. Even the top elite athletes who take a shade over 2 hours will have meticulously planned nutrition for the race, and a 2 hour training run is routine for these guys.

 

[full_throttle]

@HomerJSimpson , I went into B&M today and the High5 ZERO were on sale at £2.50 a tube, whereas they are £7 on the High5 website

 

[Jimaroid]

No one runs a marathon well on nothing. Most people take well in excess of 4 hours to run a marathon. No one has glycogen stores that can last that long when exercising. Even the top elite athletes who take a shade over 2 hours will have meticulously planned nutrition for the race, and a 2 hour training run is routine for these guys.

Kipchoge ran a record breaking sub 2 hour marathon using Maurten equivalent to 900ml of water and 200g of carbs. That's about 8 slices of bread. People in this thread are suggesting they consume over twice that equivalent amount for an activity that takes, what, a fifth of the calorific energy? Golf is not strenuous aerobic activity and it does not require specialised nutrition even if the marketing people say it does, I will die on a hill on this.

People can (and do) run sub 4 hour marathons without consuming anything. They certainly won't compete at the top end. It will hurt, some claim it doesn't, and they need to prepare and recover by eating and drinking. Eating and drinking before and after exercise is simply normal living. 2500 to 4000 calories for a marathon is available in the body, the fact that most people aren't fit enough to run one is a different problem.

I could go on.

Mountaineers at high altitude expend around 6000 to 8000 calories per day. They often go for periods of over 12 hours without eating or drinking. They consume a lot of fluid and calorific food to recover between each camp. Their bodies consume themselves, they constantly lose fat and muscle, but they carry on and still come back alive. Mostly.

Golf isn't exercise, it's just an angry stroll. And by heck would I love an angry stroll around the course right now.

 

[IanG]

Golf isn't exercise, it's just an angry stroll.

Definitely stealing that phrase

 

[jim8flog]

If you are thirsty then you need to drink if not then you don’t
We all managed fine before energy drinks were invented, they were developed for high performance athletes not golfers. Eating and drinking for club golfers in the UK is for comfort only

I always remember one golf channel bit of advice re dehydration - "if you are feeling thirsty you are already dehydrated" they were not promoting any drinks just the point to remain hydrated.

 

[Backache]

I always remember one golf channel bit of advice re dehydration - "if you are feeling thirsty you are already dehydrated" they were not promoting any drinks just the point to remain hydrated.

Golf channels usually carry a lot of advertising. Most medical opinion is now that you don't need to drink if you're not feeling thirsty and there is almost certainly more death due to overhydration in long distance running than dehydration, though that is unlikely to apply to golf.

 

[JonnyGutteridge]

An aspiring Challenge Tour player at my club takes a tupperware box of chicken/rice and has a couple of mouthfuls on every tee box, washed down with a few swigs of water.

I have to admit, sometimes I feel like I start to make silly mistakes when not fuelled correctly (mainly when it's hot and i'm dehydrated).

 

[jim8flog]

Food rather than hydration

from a well known health site

A 90 kg person will burn nearly 1800 calories in a 4 hour round of golf
A 80kg person roughly 1500

Not applicable to me because I use a buggy

 

[DanFST]

I don't drink water if i'm running under 10k. Biking, i'll drink around 350ml every 40 miles or so.

Ale and cigarettes are my golf fuel. (maybe a twix I find smooshed on my bag)

 

[Siolag]

Kipchoge ran a record breaking sub 2 hour marathon using Maurten equivalent to 900ml of water and 200g of carbs. That's about 8 slices of bread. People in this thread are suggesting they consume over twice that equivalent amount for an activity that takes, what, a fifth of the calorific energy? Golf is not strenuous aerobic activity and it does not require specialised nutrition even if the marketing people say it does, I will die on a hill on this.

People can (and do) run sub 4 hour marathons without consuming anything. They certainly won't compete at the top end. It will hurt, some claim it doesn't, and they need to prepare and recover by eating and drinking. Eating and drinking before and after exercise is simply normal living. 2500 to 4000 calories for a marathon is available in the body, the fact that most people aren't fit enough to run one is a different problem.

I could go on.

Mountaineers at high altitude expend around 6000 to 8000 calories per day. They often go for periods of over 12 hours without eating or drinking. They consume a lot of fluid and calorific food to recover between each camp. Their bodies consume themselves, they constantly lose fat and muscle, but they carry on and still come back alive. Mostly.

Golf isn't exercise, it's just an angry stroll. And by heck would I love an angry stroll around the course right now.

I said “run a marathon well” not what might be possible. Numerous studies have taken place over the years to show why people “hit the wall” and they generally come to the conclusion that it’s insufficient nutrition. Very doubtful that someone will run as well off nothing as compared to, say, running using Maurten fluids and gels. Having said that, you need to train to use all of these things, as you say, most people don’t have the fitness and they also don’t have the stomach for it to begin with.

I quite agree about golf though, a solid breakfast and being generally hydrated with a bit to top up is more than enough.