SPOTY 2024 - Annual Bun fight and Moan

The night ISED to be one of the best sports nights of the year on a Sunday, I think with David Coleman. Really entertaining with great personalities / reviews and guests seeing Ali doing an interview from The US.

Now it is a non event, BBC has lost a lot of live sport and whatever they try I have found the event very disappointing. This year I knew it was on and in the past I would record. When I Swarthmoor the TV on this morning I thought, oh I missed it, congratulations to the winner.
 
Orikoru said:
He is only 17, do we really expect him to have learnt humility? I was trash-talking my pals as I beat them at Pro Evolution Soccer at that age.
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Lord Tyrion said:
I wouldn't want my comments at 17 being analysed and brought back against me. We forget his age at times.
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You are in the public eye at the end of the day and he has been there for a year now having interviews etc - the very least is getting some sort of media training

Sport has had plenty of child stars that are able to show humility
 
3offTheTee said:
The night ISED to be one of the best sports nights of the year on a Sunday, I think with David Coleman. Really entertaining with great personalities / reviews and guests seeing Ali doing an interview from The US.

Now it is a non event, BBC has lost a lot of live sport and whatever they try I have found the event very disappointing. This year I knew it was on and in the past I would record. When I Swarthmoor the TV on this morning I thought, oh I missed it, congratulations to the winner.
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Yeah. It used to be compulsory viewing for sports fans. I tried to watch a couple of times but it seemed poorly structured - jumping all over the place.
Saw the "In memory" bit. Didn't realise most of them had died this year.
 
Arthur Wedge said:
You are in the public eye at the end of the day and he has been there for a year now having interviews etc - the very least is getting some sort of media training

Sport has had plenty of child stars that are able to show humility
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Behave. Let's give him a few years of being himself and enjoying it before all his personality is coached out of him. :rolleyes:
 
Luke Littler won Young Sports Personality of the year. However, had you never heard of him, and missed out on the name of the award that was being presented when he was called up, you'd be forgiven in thinking it might be a Life Time Achievement award, or perhaps Coach of the Year.
 
Arthur Wedge said:
You are in the public eye at the end of the day and he has been there for a year now having interviews etc - the very least is getting some sort of media training

Sport has had plenty of child stars that are able to show humility
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Amazing how people see things differently. When he walked on before the interview where his parent were there, I saw a nervous person who looked uncomfortable in a suit and a bit fazed with everyone clapping - a million miles away from arrogance.
 
I've never heard Littler speak before as have zero interest in darts. Whether he's 17 or 37 - to me he was an arrogant little prat.
 
Pin-seeker said:
Tbf I think most 17yr olds would be when they’re beating the best in the world.
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Exactly. He can probably scarcely believe what's happened to him at such a young age, and is excited to be there. I'm sure he'll learn to be a bit more humble in time, when het gets more used to the pressures of being at the top.
 
Luke Littler is 17, he is a boy, he stands alone up on a stage, engaged in a testosterone (Fallon Sherrock apart) fueled sport, one on one with his opponent, being roared on by several thousand alcohol fueled fans who themselves are stripped of their own dignity due to the fancy dress and costumes that they choose to wear. The warm up for said fans is a troupe of semi-clad busty young women wiggling their backsides and tits for the titillation of the audience. The stage on which Littler performs is almost gladiatorial in its masculine combative nature. Youve got to be a competitor both on and off that stage in order to make it.

Yet we seem to expect a 17 year old who is still developing mentally, who works in such an environment, to not just receive but also take on board, media training to sanitize what he says and how he says it? You only have to look at some of the other darts players interviewed to realize that not all of them have the same polished media approach that many seem to think Littler should have....and they are much older and more experienced.

I think sometimes people forget what they or their friends were like back at that age....many of us would have been fairly quiet wouldn't say boo to a goose sort of people, many would be brash and outgoing....I can certainly see how Littler, due to the environment he plies his trade in may have fallen into the latter camp...sure he may become more polished as he ages, but to become too sanitized will rob him of some of the combative edge that he needs up on that stage. Yes there will be a team behind him...but they can only do so much to condition him...any of us who have had kids will surely well remember what it was like trying to advise our own 17/18 year old's on appropriate ways to behave and conduct themselves

I haven't seen or heard what he said...seems to be something about selling tickets....you know what, there is a group of us at work, we go and watch the darts every year. Usually we have no problem getting around 8 tickets for a 3rd or 4th round match shortly after Christmas. This year the demand was so intense that we managed 4 tickets for a first round session. The demand has rocketed....70,000 tickets sold in 15 minutes. Believe me...the Luke Littler effect is real. If he wants to big himself up and enhance his profile and earnings capability then fair play to him.
 
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