chrisd
Major Champion
We'll I've got the 'ump now! 😂😂
Spiethgate The Open on the 13th
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We'll I've got the 'ump now! 😂😂
JohnnyDee
Tour Winner
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
If it makes you feel any better I could probably have a trim whilst a DJ drive was in the air.
But certainly not a Kuchar drive 😜
Maninblack4612
Tour Winner
At least Kuchar had the sense to play his second shot while Spieth was farting about. Had Monty done that at Winged Foot in 2006 he would have probably won the U. S. Open
Pathetic Shark
Tour Rookie
Isn't the reason you can't chip well Chris is because you haven't seen a fringe for about 30 years?
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I know he did everything by the rules but it's ridiculous how top players are getting away with murder in using the rules to get good lies now. Am I right in understanding that he deliberately dropped it behind some trucks so he could then take a free drop out on some nice flat practise ground? I think it's farcical that the rules allow that to be honest. Up there with that chap the other week/month who got a free drop in the bunker after digging his feet into it, or whatever it was.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Jordan's interview was very informative he said "I have been in this situation many times and have learned to take my time and not to rush into playing my shot, and to look at all my options"
He does hit a lot of poor drives so will need a good grasp of the rules.
At the end of it all Kutcher is not his problem it's up to the Refferee and the player to sort it out.
The lad is trying to win the Open.
As for the Van dear Velde comparison it could not be farther off the mark if he had done what Jordan did he would have won!..
Most amateur players could learn from this you need to know the rules as they can help you not just punish you.
He does hit a lot of poor drives so will need a good grasp of the rules.
At the end of it all Kutcher is not his problem it's up to the Refferee and the player to sort it out.
The lad is trying to win the Open.
As for the Van dear Velde comparison it could not be farther off the mark if he had done what Jordan did he would have won!..
Most amateur players could learn from this you need to know the rules as they can help you not just punish you.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Look at your first eight words ?
richy
Journeyman Pro
He didn't get away with murder he was penalised a stroke. It's only because he made a 5 through pure skill that people seem to have an issue. If he'd walked off with a 7 I doubt anyone would complain.
BrizoH71
Tour Rookie
I'll probably be reading too much into this, and I'm sorry if this was asked in the Open thread and thus repeating something already answered, but if the range isn't/wasn't OOB and is encompassed within the course then surely it forms an integral part of the course?
If that is case then surely there should be no play or practise on that part of the course prior to a strokeplay event? What's different from declaring the range OOB in much the same way as the officials took out the 10th fairway as a line in for the 9th hole?
If that is case then surely there should be no play or practise on that part of the course prior to a strokeplay event? What's different from declaring the range OOB in much the same way as the officials took out the 10th fairway as a line in for the 9th hole?
I suppose its down to the R&A, never known a practice ground not be OOB
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
The committee determine if practice on the course before an event is allowed or not in my understanding.
At my club the range is not OOB.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Which clarified that I wasn't criticising Spieth, I'm criticising the rules that allow him to do what he did.
As the ball was unplayable it would have cost him a stroke regardless, and there's no way he would have got out with a 5 if he hadn't have been able to manufacture such a nice lie out of it. So in essence he did get away with murder to only end up with bogey after that drive. Yes his recovery was down to skill but also down to loopholes in the rules which allowed him to drop it on a nice flat bit of practise ground.
garyinderry
Ryder Cup Winner
Kutch was not to know spieth was going to play like a man possessed after that incident.
I would say in a quiet moment, kutch would tell you, coming down the stretch he was quite happy to see Jordan knock it a mile off line and seemingly look like he was going to get flustered and potentially have an impact on the rest of his round.
I would certainly be happy enough to see my opponent get himself into a fine mess.
Jordan dug himself out to his credit and holed a nice putt to save bogey.
The pros all get breaks. Rafa got a drop on 18 away from railings that have him the opportunity to get to -6 which at the time might have got him into a play off.
I would say in a quiet moment, kutch would tell you, coming down the stretch he was quite happy to see Jordan knock it a mile off line and seemingly look like he was going to get flustered and potentially have an impact on the rest of his round.
I would certainly be happy enough to see my opponent get himself into a fine mess.
Jordan dug himself out to his credit and holed a nice putt to save bogey.
The pros all get breaks. Rafa got a drop on 18 away from railings that have him the opportunity to get to -6 which at the time might have got him into a play off.
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guest100718
Guest
the rules allow for practice on or near a practice ground. it's a specific exception
richy
Journeyman Pro
So what should he have done? Played it as it lies?
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
yes I understand that but the rules are there for everyone all the players had that option if they were in his position.
The pros get away with things we can't because of the shear amount of people tents, trucks etc that would not be there when we play.
Jordan was very lucky I think it was on 15th when he hit a spectator that ball would have gone in the bushes if it was one of us.
Thats pro golf.
He can only play by the rules set by the committee the alternative is not to play by the rules we all know what that means ?
BrizoH71
Tour Rookie
Thought that was only applicable between the play of two holes? The exception to 7.1 only stipluates chipping and putting on or near a practise ground; I must be missing something (aside from my marbles
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guest100718
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Thought that was only applicable between the play of two holes? The exception to 7.1 only stipluates chipping and putting on or near a practise ground; I must be missing something (aside from my marbles
7 1 is before a round.
FairwayDodger
Money List Winner
Practice area at my course is not OOB. I've played a few shots from there!
Biggest issue is usually finding your ball amongst the 100s if people are practising at the time!
