speeding notification.

[North Mimms]

These days the insurance companies have access to the dvla database and this makes checking for motoring transgressions very easy.

I did a speed awareness course about 15 months ago, cost 90, but thought it was better than points. didnt bother to tell insurance company (Admiral) as I didnt think I needed to.

They found out about the course and did my premium another £120 ish quid, cant move coz getting such a good deal on the kids cars on the multi car policy.

Big Brother really is watching you

Admiral are fond of back dating premium hikes as well!

 

[drdel]

Why do we feel so aggrieved when caught speeding?

There are so many cheap devices that warn you where the speed camera are located, or likely to located and also tell you the limit of the road you're on, considering the cost (especially if you drive for a living) its daft to get caught out.

 

[SaintHacker]

Why do we feel so aggrieved when caught speeding?

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I think its the manner in which you are caught.
Thye first time I was done was for going through average spped cams on a motorway too fast. It was early evening, the workers had finished for the day and I was late to pick one of my kids up from something or other so I took the risk and got caught. My fault, no complaints.
Second time was driving out of a New Forest village, dead straight bit of road, going from a 30 limit to a 60. I accelerated 100 yards too early and got caught by the sneaky sod hiding behind a tree. To my knowledge there has never been a serious accident on that road. That to me is nothing more than a money making exercise and quite frankly stinks.

 

[Captainron]

Hypothetical

A kids runs out into the road infront of your car and you hit them causing their death.

What are the implications if you were found to be over the speed limit (even by 1mph)?

 

[chrisd]

I think its the manner in which you are caught.

That to me is nothing more than a money making exercise and quite frankly stinks.

The M20 at Maidstone now has variable speed gantry's and they seem to be on at non busy, random times, flashing away and earning bags of money for the coffers

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Hypothetical

A kids runs out into the road infront of your car and you hit them causing their death.

What are the implications if you were found to be over the speed limit (even by 1mph)?

Well if you cause a casualty when speeding it can be death by dangerous driving which can have a long prison term
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[SaintHacker]

Hypothetical

A kids runs out into the road infront of your car and you hit them causing their death.

What are the implications if you were found to be over the speed limit (even by 1mph)?

What relevance does that have to the situation I have posted?
I drive for a living, i do over 40k miles a year. In 18 years I have been caught speeding twice. I don't break the limit in built up areas, or where there is a likelihood of someone stepping out. I have zero sympathy for anyone that does and I think if you are caught speeding in that situation you should have the book thrown at you.

 

[Captainron]

What relevance does that have to the situation I have posted?
I drive for a living, i do over 40k miles a year. In 18 years I have been caught speeding twice. I don't break the limit in built up areas, or where there is a likelihood of someone stepping out. I have zero sympathy for anyone that does and I think if you are caught speeding in that situation you should have the book thrown at you.

You having a bad day or something?

That was aimed at everyone who speeds (including me who also does thousands of miles a month) and gets blasé about what they are doing because it's second nature.

You've been caught twice in 18 years but I'll wager that you've offended thousands of times like we all have.

We all need to tighten up our ideas on speeding and blaming the law for catching people and wasting their time is the wrong attitude to have.

 

[SaintHacker]

You having a bad day or something?

That was aimed at everyone who speeds (including me who also does thousands of miles a month) and gets blasé about what they are doing because it's second nature. .

Fair enough, I thought you were replying directly to my post. Apologies if I've got the wrong end of the stick.

 

[Fyldewhite]

We all need to tighten up our ideas on speeding and blaming the law for catching people and wasting their time is the wrong attitude to have.

That's true, but Joe Public will never support the police when they do not target their enforcement to get the dangerous people off the road. I drive down Blackpool promenade every day to work in St Annes. Just past the Pleasure Beach there is a 1 mile stretch of road which in winter is absolutely deserted. It is 4 lanes wide as there are no parked cars and you would be lucky to see any pedestrians at all. Of course the speed limit (30) is the same as in summer when there are parked cars and quite a few people about. The police regularly set up their cameras on this stretch and routinely do drivers who are probably doing no more than 40. Even this seems too slow for the road to be honest. They could be less than a mile away on a road running parallel to the prom with shops, schools, children, old people etc. Do they do so? Never. My view is that if they caught one driver a day doing 40 on that road it would do more for safety than catching 10 on the prom. Why do they do this? You decide.

 

[Hacker Khan]

That's true, but Joe Public will never support the police when they do not target their enforcement to get the dangerous people off the road. I drive down Blackpool promenade every day to work in St Annes. Just past the Pleasure Beach there is a 1 mile stretch of road which in winter is absolutely deserted. It is 4 lanes wide as there are no parked cars and you would be lucky to see any pedestrians at all. Of course the speed limit (30) is the same as in summer when there are parked cars and quite a few people about. The police regularly set up their cameras on this stretch and routinely do drivers who are probably doing no more than 40. Even this seems too slow for the road to be honest. They could be less than a mile away on a road running parallel to the prom with shops, schools, children, old people etc. Do they do so? Never. My view is that if they caught one driver a day doing 40 on that road it would do more for safety than catching 10 on the prom. Why do they do this? You decide.

I kind of agree. The vast majority of police speed cameras I see are placed to catch people out, as opposed to areas in which speeding is likely to cause injury to pedestrians/school children etc etc. To me they should focus in areas where speeding is more likely to cause injury to others, and with extremely scarce resources focus on areas with a high number of pedestrians. Not where they can raise the most money from.

Targeting people doing 45 on a dual carriageway designated 40 with no pedestrians around (which the police regularly target near me) is probably not doing a huge amount for road safety. Targeting people doing 35 outside a school near the start or end of the school day, or even clamping down on bad parking outside schools, probably will.

I've seen plenty of the former, never any of the latter.

 

[lex!]

I kind of agree. The vast majority of police speed cameras I see are placed to catch people out, as opposed to areas in which speeding is likely to cause injury to pedestrians/school children etc etc. To me they should focus in areas where speeding is more likely to cause injury to others, and with extremely scarce resources focus on areas with a high number of pedestrians. Not where they can raise the most money from.

Targeting people doing 45 on a dual carriageway designated 40 with no pedestrians around (which the police regularly target near me) is probably not doing a huge amount for road safety. Targeting people doing 35 outside a school near the start or end of the school day, or even clamping down on bad parking outside schools, probably will.

I've seen plenty of the former, never any of the latter.

Completely agree. There's a dual carriageway on the route out of work and one of my pals got caught doing 45 in a 40 and he's got a speed awareness course up soon for £100. Another bloke in our team had the same last year. I expect that I have just been lucky. Why is 40mph safe, and 45mph an offence? This is purely a revenue generation exercise tragetting hard working, tax paying people, whilst the town centre on weekend nights is like a war zone when all the great unwashed spill out onto the streets without any fear of sanction.

 

[JustOne]

I kind of agree. The vast majority of police speed cameras I see are placed to catch people out, as opposed to areas in which speeding is likely to cause injury to pedestrians/school children etc etc. To me they should focus in areas where speeding is more likely to cause injury to others, and with extremely scarce resources focus on areas with a high number of pedestrians. Not where they can raise the most money from.

Targeting people doing 45 on a dual carriageway designated 40 with no pedestrians around (which the police regularly target near me) is probably not doing a huge amount for road safety. Targeting people doing 35 outside a school near the start or end of the school day, or even clamping down on bad parking outside schools, probably will.

I've seen plenty of the former, never any of the latter.

Good post, totally agree.

 

[stevelev]

Off thread a little but I think that in this day and age rather than catching people speeding, the government and car manufacturers should chip all vehicles so everytime they change speed zones, the vehicle is limited to the relevant speed for that vehicle.

It would never happen as the amount of revenue lost would be too large. But it would sort speeding out pretty much instankty then if anyone is caught just give them a ban for tampering with a governor. On older vehicles im sure there is a modification that could be fitted by testing stations. And on mot tests if tampers, impound the vehicle notify police, and ban the driver.

SuRely insurers would like that introduced to to help save people money ha ha ha ha ha ha