Speed awareness course today!

[Deleted member 15344]

no but surely you are to tell them that you have been caught speeding

Nope - don't have to

Only time you need to tell the insurance company is if you have acquired points on your license

 

[chrisd]

I got done last year, on the way to a forum meet, and was 1 mph too fast for the awareness course, I thought that is was strange that the faster you drive the less that a speed awareness course is deemed relevant by the authorities ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I got done last year, on the way to a forum meet, and was 1 mph too fast for the awareness course, I thought that is was strange that the faster you drive the less that a speed awareness course is deemed relevant by the authorities ?

Think everyone should get a speed awareness and then the fine is increased when drivers go over the limit by certain percentages also adding in points

 

[BubbaP]

I may well have attended one given the choice, however received my three points at 0 MPH :angry:
So it was not offered.

 

[richart]

Christ. The last time that happened it was a lot more expensive.... in Amsterdam. 50 euros and it only lasted 15 minutes.

Did you read a book for the last ten minutes ?

 

[hovis]

We run these weekly at my station. The police stand inside the building behind one way glass and observe all the geniuses who think its a good idea to arrive at a speed awareness course by handbraking it into our yard. Morons!

 

[Tashyboy]

First time I got done for speeding I asked about doing a speed awareness course and was told that there was not enough funding available to run one.. I politely asked well use some of the money you get off me and others who are caught speeding and run one. What does the money from speeding actually get spent on?

anyway I then got caught speeding again and was invited onto a course in south yorks. Expected it to be full of johnny baseball cap type people and was gobsmacked to see more women than men. Anyway I was amazed at how you know or don't know how quick you should or should not be traveling at due to the street lamps being there or not being there. On a single lane or dual carriage way. Or not. It would be simpler to people like me if there were more speed limit signs than speed camera signs so I actually know how fast I should be doin.

eg 37.1 in a 30. Thought it was a 40.
38.2 in a 30 on a dual carriage way.
57 in a 50 drivin over Derbyshire moors on the only straight rd over taking miss daisy who had been drivin at 40 for 10 miles with 100 cars behind me. Overtook and plod was waiting for me.

fully understand the need for speed cameras, ave been on the course, but there's a massive difference between outside a school camera and a cash cow camera.

 

[williamalex1]

Christ. The last time that happened it was a lot more expensive.... in Amsterdam. 50 euros and it only lasted 15 minutes.

:rofl:

 

[Khamelion]

My old man used to be a traffic cop, on the bikes and he's told me all the stories of various accidents etc...

Like the motorcyclist who committed suicide by riding at full pelt into the gable end of a terraced house, first and last time he went to pick the helmet up off the road.

The number of times he would pull over a women and she would turn on the tears hoping for sympathy, which they never got and as soon as they realised they were still getting a ticket, the tears stopped, one even said, "Well you've gotta try".

Someone did complain to his sergeant, when just shortly after Northumberland street in the centre of Newcastle got made a bus lane only, yes that's going back a long time for those that know Newcastle, he pulled someone and asked "How long they had been a bus?", the driver didn't see the funny side.

Another women he pulled over tried the tears and got no where, then tried the, "my boss will kill me if I'm late", neither worked. The next morning he was called into the inspectors office to explain his actions for pulling the lady over and was asked by the inspector to apologize. The lady had told her boss, who apparently had some standing and knew the inspector and both the lady and her boss were standing in the inspectors office waiting. My dad simply said she was speeding, she was caught and she got a ticket, no I will not apologize and left the office. Nothing more was ever said about it.

 

[Andy808]

If (when) I get caught speeding on the bike I can't see it being offered but more likely to have a short spell without my licence.

Speed doesn't kill, a lack of awareness by to many road users (including me a times) is what kills. Route familiarity doesn't help either, how many times have you got home and thought "I don't remember any of that drive home today!"?

 

[garyinderry]

I got done last year, on the way to a forum meet, and was 1 mph too fast for the awareness course, I thought that is was strange that the faster you drive the less that a speed awareness course is deemed relevant by the authorities ?

great point that. I got hit with 3 points here and I now drive like a granny. I cant afford the insurance hike as it is now!

 

[Smiffy]

Well, got to be honest, I found it very, very interesting and am glad that I went on it now.
Some surprising stuff, especially regarding stopping distances. It's amazing what a difference just a few miles per hour makes to your impact speed. Seriously thought provoking.
A lot of it is just "common sense" but it's worrying how much we tend to forget over the years either through complacency or "bravado".
No "horrific" videos to watch, but we did see some that really do make you stop and think.
I came away thinking that it was well worth it, and honestly think I have learnt something from it.
I'm not going to say I will never get stopped for speeding again, but it really has made me think a bit more about the consequences of my actions.
And it's a funny old thing about points on licences and how it affects insurance premiums.
When I was riding my motorbike, I picked up 3 points and informed my insurance company. They assured me that it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever, even stating that 6 points would be ok. Over that and they would penalise me.
And apparently, Admiral (and their associated companies) are the only insurance company that ask if you have been on a speed awareness course. Others are only interested in the points.
If you are asked whether you have been on one or not you have to tell them you have. Because at claim time they will find out.
If your insurance company just ask whether you have any points for speeding you don't have to declare you have been on a course.

 

[chrisd]

great point that. I got hit with 3 points here and I now drive like a granny. I cant afford the insurance hike as it is now!

Strange, on my wife's insurance my points added £20 and mine didn't add anything after negotiating a better deal. It was the first points ever on my licence after 42 years that hurt the most

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Well, got to be honest, I found it very, very interesting and am glad that I went on it now.
Some surprising stuff, especially regarding stopping distances. It's amazing what a difference just a few miles per hour makes to your impact speed. Seriously thought provoking.
A lot of it is just "common sense" but it's worrying how much we tend to forget over the years either through complacency or "bravado".
No "horrific" videos to watch, but we did see some that really do make you stop and think.
I came away thinking that it was well worth it, and honestly think I have learnt something from it.
I'm not going to say I will never get stopped for speeding again, but it really has made me think a bit more about the consequences of my actions.
And it's a funny old thing about points on licences and how it affects insurance premiums.
When I was riding my motorbike, I picked up 3 points and informed my insurance company. They assured me that it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever, even stating that 6 points would be ok. Over that and they would penalise me.
And apparently, Admiral (and their associated companies) are the only insurance company that ask if you have been on a speed awareness course. Others are only interested in the points.
If you are asked whether you have been on one or not you have to tell them you have. Because at claim time they will find out.
If your insurance company just ask whether you have any points for speeding you don't have to declare you have been on a course.

we are with Admiral (multicar) and I went on a speed awareness course last year, no points, thought that was the end of it. did the insurance renewal at xmas as normal and a couple of weeks later got an email to say that i had "overlooked" the speed awareness course and as a result I had £105 added onto my premium.
We still use them as its cheaper for the kids cars, but it shows that the insurance companies have the ability to check police records and I think that other companies will follow suit.

 

[guest100718]

I have had a few fixed penalties overs they years and they made no difference to my insurance, even in teh days of my turbo charged boy racer car.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Well done Smiffy for an honest report.

I remember sending a group of 12 greenkeepers on a lifts, trips and spills half day course.
Before hand you should have heard the moans and groans.
After, they all said what a eye opener it had been.

 

[gmc40]

we are with Admiral (multicar) and I went on a speed awareness course last year, no points, thought that was the end of it. did the insurance renewal at xmas as normal and a couple of weeks later got an email to say that i had "overlooked" the speed awareness course and as a result I had £105 added onto my premium.
We still use them as its cheaper for the kids cars, but it shows that the insurance companies have the ability to check police records and I think that other companies will follow suit.

I was with 'Bell' who are part of the Admiral group and had to declare a speed awareness course. My premium went up by approx £85. As far as I am aware they are the only Insurance group doing this but could be wrong.

 

[Smiffy]

I was with 'Bell' who are part of the Admiral group and had to declare a speed awareness course. My premium went up by approx £85. As far as I am aware they are the only Insurance group doing this but could be wrong.

We were told by the guy chairing the course that Admiral group are the only group that will ask.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Really looking forward to it.
Choices were £100.00 fine and 3 points or the above.
4 hours of bliss.

I believe you have to declare it to your insurer - even although your licence hasn't been endorsed.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You are under no obligation to tell insurance companies you have been on an awareness course

Well my insurer required me to declare it - and it's Admiral