Sorry to bring this up again!!!!

[DaveM]

But Its been puzzling me. Am I right to say, if I want to hit a fade around something. I stand with my stance(open), say 15yrds to the right of the target. Have the club closed to the target but open to the swing path say 10yrds right of the target. Would I have my shoulders square to the target or square to the swingpath. (I know this sounds stupid but). Oh I am lefthanded before anyone says this will draw the ball. Tried to write it from a righthanders view but kept getting it wrong.

 

[CMAC]

simple way is aim the clubhead at the target and aim your feet, shoulders hips right of target.

or aim right slightly and open the face slightly (ball will go higher so shorter remember)

quite a few other ways as well..........

 

[bluetoon]

Shoulders and feet should be open to the target.
Clubface should be square to the target.

Therefore as you make a normal swing the swing path is out-to-in relative to the target line.

eek, harder to explain than i thought :mmm:

 

[JustOne]

It's important to get this correct as both replies so far are wrong.

I'll draw a pic..... back in a mo..... BTW it sounds like you are correct and your shoulders should be square to your feet.

 

[richart]

James I know you say that Faldo does it wrong, but why does it still work for him ?

 

[JustOne]

The more you open your stance (keeping the clubface where it is) the more the ball will curve. Clubface must be aimed to the side of your target as that's where you want to ball to start.

Note: the ball is line up in the middle of the stance so you hit the ball before you take a divot! ...no shots are played in front of the divot

click to enlarge...

 

[JustOne]

James I know you say that Faldo does it wrong, but why does it still work for him ?

He wasn't actually doing what he thought/said he was doing, on the way down he was manipulating the clubface open without realising it.

This is the perfect example, he opens the club waaay more than he says and actually ends up blocking it...

[video=youtube;obgy1KrP6yk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obgy1KrP6yk[/video]

 

[wull]

if you are right handed and you want to hit a fade then the rule of thumb is...

aim left of target with your feet,shoulders and hips but have the clubface aiming at the target.so you are open to the target so in this case aiming left with the body.

you then take a swing that follows the line of thebody which is out to in and at impact the clubface should be open causing the side spin required for the fade.

 

[JustOne]

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Another wrong answer!!!

What is it with pointing the feckin' clubface at the target?????

The ball starts where the clubface points... do you want to hit it at the tree or around it?

 

[CMAC]

if you are right handed and you want to hit a fade then the rule of thumb is...

aim left of target with your feet,shoulders and hips but have the clubface aiming at the target.so you are open to the target so in this case aiming left with the body.

you then take a swing that follows the line of thebody which is out to in and at impact the clubface should be open causing the side spin required for the fade.

which is exactly what I said and most cat 1's know and do, wonder why justone is so adamant its wrong?

there are of course a few ways to skin this cat

 

[richart]

That's what I used to think Wull, but if I understand James correctly the club face should be aiming left of target, at a point where you want the ball to start.

 

[JustOne]

there are of course a few ways to skin this cat

Yep, you can go round the tree............................... or through it

 

[bobmac]

wonder why justone is so adamant its wrong?

Because he's right

 

[JustOne]

Because he's right

Please PM me the url for that smiley will you Bob

 

[wull]

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Another wrong answer!!!

What is it with pointing the feckin' clubface at the target?????

The ball starts where the clubface points... do you want to hit it at the tree or around it?

what i meant to say or what i thought i was saying was the body etc has to be left of the line you want th ball to start so you can create the side spin.so the clubface should be aiming where you intend to start the ball.

wind yer neck in ffs.

 

[AmandaJR]

I'm going to stick with trying to hit it straight !

 

[PhilTheFragger]

It really doesnt matter, as now you are so confused you are going to knob it 30 yards

Let the Force Be With You

Fragger

 

[Region3]

Just playing at arbitration between the 2 camps for a minute......

In all the stuff I've read about this on the internet, it says the ball starts closer to the face angle than swingpath. About 80% of the initial ball direction is due to face angle and the other 20% due to the swingpath.

If a golfer is pointing the club face at the tree, but swinging along a line 10yds to the left of the target, then the ball should start 2yds left of target and has a chance of missing the tree.

Maybe everyone's right :clap:

 

[CMAC]

Because he's right

that explains why it never works for me:fore:,
interestingly enough I usually go over or under a tree, never needed a fade, I'd better learn how to do it properly now if I'm going to get to my goal handicap. Thanks for enlightening me

 

[CMAC]

It really doesnt matter, as now you are so confused you are going to knob it 30 yards

now THAT had me in stitches, wine dribbling down me chin:rofl: