singles comp.

[evahakool]

Our club used to play off 3/4 h/c for singles comps.Since it was changed to full h/c some of our lower h/c players complained this was unfair on them.My view is for example I am playing a 10 h/c player I would get 10 shots of him (im a 20 h/c) So on 8 holes he would have a good chance of winning most of these holes. Even on full h/c I would think the lower h/c would come out on top most of the time any comments on this?

 

[toyboy54]

whats the point of handicaps if if is not a level playing field???
That's why the system is there!!!


Jim c

 

[Imurg]

I could never understand all this 3/4 of the difference mularky.
A handicap is a handicap
If I play off 10 and you play off 20 then I give you 10 shots not 8 - where does 8 come from????

 

[Pants]

According to previous threads on this, refer to the CONGU website.

Apparently when the difference was 3/4 handicap then it was in the lower handicapper's favour of about 60/40. Now off full difference it is in the lower handicapper's favour of about 55/45.

Poor dears. No wonder they are complaining . A higher handicapper having a 5% better chance (but still less than 50/50) of beating them?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I totally agree. Handicaps are there for a reason so why penalise a guy by only giving him 3/4 or what he's entitled to. If I play a higher handicapper and give him ten shots and he beats me fair play!

 

[viscount17]

In any one-on-one competition the lower should win, the higher may win. Over a series of matches the lower should win.

In a competition with a big entry then the odds shift slightly in that there is a greater chance that one high handicapper will win, but only over a one or at most two-round event.

 

[jammydodger]

In reality though it has changed the balance significantly at our place. This year in the handicap singles 3 out of the 4 semifinalists were 15 or over (the other being 8). A 20 h/c got to the final. The tales in the clubhouse were not of losing but by how much the single figures were losing by.

I personally got mullered by a 15 h/c who played 16 holes in 5 over par

The point about 3/4 h/c was that we all know higher h/c can have train wreck holes that do for them in strokeplay. All that you ever get on here is higher h/c players saying "if only i didnt have that 10 here and that 8 there , I would have been well under my h/c". "If I could just get rid of those 2 or 3 holes that I totally mess up I/d be so much lower". Dont forget this is MATCHPLAY not strokeplay , a different game altogether

Well that was the reason for the 3/4 h/c , to take away the train wreck holes and hopefully leave both players with a good/fair chance to win

 

[Imurg]

Point taken but it doesn't account for the 15 handicapper who generally bogeys most holes against the 5 handicapper who pars most. You've still got the 10 shot difference but no real train-wreck holes from the higher handicapper.

I've been there - I've been taken apart 7&6 by a 28'er, giving them 20 shots (full difference). He bogeyed most holes so I was having to par to halve them.
I still believe full difference is fair.

 

[drawboy]

No one minds a high handicap player receiving shots as has been said that is what the system is there for. The problem arises more when the said high handicap player manages to play to 12 because he has had one of those days
you know the kind of round.It seems to happen a lot.

 

[evahakool]

Hi Imurg
Thanks for your comments,I ment I would get 10 shots and the other eight we would be playing level.

 

[evahakool]

Thanks for all the comments ,interesting stats Pants.