bobmac
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Patriotic?
Should we be more...............
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rosecott
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Has this anything to do with Scotland being top of their Rugby World Cup group and England not being top of theirs?
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It appears to be not politically correct to be more patriotic.
jp5
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Eh? Rubbish.
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I struggle to be patriotic for patriotisms sake. I'll support England rugby...because I like rugby but I'm generally indifferent to football etc. I'll support individual athletes at the Olympics, but I don't really care if we finish above Chinese Taipei in the medals table.
English nationalism turns me off, I've nothing in common with most who bang that drum. It's just an accident of birth.
English nationalism turns me off, I've nothing in common with most who bang that drum. It's just an accident of birth.
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"Patriotism is the last resort of a scoundrel"
Such a well known quotation I have forgotten who by, Oscar Wilde possibly?
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Such a well known quotation I have forgotten who by, Oscar Wilde possibly?
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bobmac
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Absolutely not as I didn't know that.
It was more of an observation that we may not be as proud to be (insert your own preference) as for example the Americans.
MegaSteve
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Herself has just returned from a trip to Washington where, again, she was reminded being patriotic is not a sin...
If I flew my flag, on my front porch, over here... I would be leaving myself open to the accusation of being a racist...
Most probably OK at present with an on going major sporting event occurring but not so good at other times...
If I flew my flag, on my front porch, over here... I would be leaving myself open to the accusation of being a racist...
Most probably OK at present with an on going major sporting event occurring but not so good at other times...
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Far too many find offence when people are patriotic
I wonder how many people are proud of being British etc and wonder how many are proud of our forces
People IMO are too worried at times to show how proud they are because of a fear of upsetting someone
I wonder how many people are proud of being British etc and wonder how many are proud of our forces
People IMO are too worried at times to show how proud they are because of a fear of upsetting someone
Khamelion
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I think that is the perceived notion, in that being patriotic is tantamount to being racist. That should not be the case, but sadly many see it that way.
There have been many a report in local newspapers of someone flying a Union flag or George cross in their garden only to be told to take it down, because someone has complained.
As for the patriotism side of things, I'll watch the odd England game, be it rugby or football, but couldn't give to hoots if they win or lose, it's not going to affect me one way or another.
As for the armed forces, I must be patriotic else I wouldn't be supporting the serviceman and women who risk so much for this country by helping raising funds through the H4H day arranged in these very forum walls.
The Collins dictionary states patriotism as "Devotion to ones own country and concern for its defence", I'm proud to be British, live in a great city with beautiful countryside all around.
There have been many a report in local newspapers of someone flying a Union flag or George cross in their garden only to be told to take it down, because someone has complained.
As for the patriotism side of things, I'll watch the odd England game, be it rugby or football, but couldn't give to hoots if they win or lose, it's not going to affect me one way or another.
As for the armed forces, I must be patriotic else I wouldn't be supporting the serviceman and women who risk so much for this country by helping raising funds through the H4H day arranged in these very forum walls.
The Collins dictionary states patriotism as "Devotion to ones own country and concern for its defence", I'm proud to be British, live in a great city with beautiful countryside all around.
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If that is Washington DC then if I remember correctly it is a crime not to be patriotic. There is something to be said for the pride that Americans have in their country, but if anyone is going to go OTT with patriotism then it is the Americans. The national anthem before EVERY sporting event; really?
MegaSteve
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Most probably are a little OTT over there...
However, I strongly suspect, that if a member of the armed forces turned up at A+E they wouldn't be ushered into a side room for fear of upsetting the 'locals'...
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How many of the armed forces actually fight for patriotism??? I thought it was all about standing shoulder to shoulder with your mates, not some abstract notion of duty to a flag?
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Yes, but for the correct reasons.
Patriotism can often stray into nationalism into racism imo. So, yep, but keep it in check.
Patriotism can often stray into nationalism into racism imo. So, yep, but keep it in check.
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A good deal of the armed forces fight for their country and also for the person stood next to them.
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Yes, but for the correct reasons.
Patriotism can often stray into nationalism into racism imo. So, yep, but keep it in check.
I was wondering how to say exactly this
I think we have it about right. Having been to the USA I think they have a level of blind patriotism that is quite unhealthy.
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After living in many countries around the world, my observation is that the lack of identity and national pride that England and my fellow English display is an absolute disgrace.
One problem that does exist though, is that often the most visible users of our flag, and English patriotism in general, are the far right political groups and moronic football hooligans.
Hence flying a flag is often wrongly linked to them.
One problem that does exist though, is that often the most visible users of our flag, and English patriotism in general, are the far right political groups and moronic football hooligans.
Hence flying a flag is often wrongly linked to them.
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