spongebob59
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There was a mass brawl on a beach at broadsstairs, first big incident I've heard of in Kent.
But if you want to put a different spin on it you could say he made a bad call as him and his wife didn’t get ill enough to be unable to look after the kid and it would of been ok if he’d of stayed in London, so do we really want someone making panicy, knee jerk reactions involved at the top end in Government.just wanted to put a different spin on it. We are all appalled because of his job and position of his behaviour and want him sacked. But we are in same way happy to stand by and watch 400plus on a beach, 200 at a rave in Leeds, 200 plus in a village near Me on motorbikes all sat about in groups eating Ice cream on a village green etc and not want any action of any kind. And yes I don’t agree with what he did but I do understand why, well the trip up there as for rest mmmmm but to loose your job over protecting your child, I’m sorry no.
And someone who tests his eyesight by going for a drive.But if you want to put a different spin on it you could say he made a bad call as him and his wife didn’t get ill enough to be unable to look after the kid and it would of been ok if he’d of stayed in London, so do we really want someone making panicy, knee jerk reactions involved at the top end in Government.
So a guy who in a state of panic travels with his family to protect his child in a worst case scenario. The media have hated him from day one so drum a hysteria against him dragging along the public and we all want him sacked for his mistake In which he thinks he did the right thing. Never went near anyone so minimal risk.
What about the fact that he left work because his wife thought that she might have the virus and then later that day returned to work rather than doing what the guidelines stated to isolate at home for 14 days?
So a guy who in a state of panic travels with his family to protect his child in a worst case scenario. The media have hated him from day one so drum a hysteria against him dragging along the public and we all want him sacked for his mistake In which he thinks he did the right thing. Never went near anyone so minimal risk.
so did we get the 400 Plus people’s names and job sat on the beaches yesterday deliberately flouting rules knowingly, with a major risk to public health, so we can demand they are all sacked too. Or is it one rule for him and one rule for the masses ?
Well, it's certainly a worse excuse.And someone who tests his eyesight by going for a drive.
Think that’s worse than the drive to Durham.
To be honest, if every single one of the 400 plus on the beach had received a fine, I wouldn't have shed a tear. We haven't been out anywhere despite the occassionaly gorgeous weather.just wanted to put a different spin on it. We are all appalled because of his job and position of his behaviour and want him sacked. But we are in same way happy to stand by and watch 400plus on a beach, 200 at a rave in Leeds, 200 plus in a village near Me on motorbikes all sat about in groups eating Ice cream on a village green etc and not want any action of any kind. And yes I don’t agree with what he did but I do understand why, well the trip up there as for rest mmmmm but to loose your job over protecting your child, I’m sorry no.
Possibly but the people who are already doing what they want don’t watch the news imo.Does anyone think that England's chances of having a larger than expected second wave of Covid have been increased by the actions of Johnson and Cummings in the last 14 days.
And......before the usual suspects get back on their high horses remember that health is a devolved issue within the UK.
Does anyone think that England's chances of having a larger than expected second wave of Covid have been increased by the actions of Johnson and Cummings in the last 14 days.
And......before the usual suspects get back on their high horses remember that health is a devolved issue within the UK.
Possibly but the people who are already doing what they want don’t watch the news imo.
Most people doing the right thing won’t change that because of Cummings.
But people are changing what they do now but not because of this.
It might change their excuse if they are pulled by the police as now everyone will “ be looking for childcare”.
Or “Testing their eyesight”
Sorry for the late reply, it was my Birthday yesterday so went for a long walk on the Malvern hills with my wife followed by a lovely meal she made me in the evening, also catching up with my family on video conferencing, I have children and grandchildren in a number of countries.Well rest assured I wasn’t trying to draw you in to anything, you come across as an intelligent person who tends to follow politics and keeps up to date, therefore I am still bewildered at your lack of knowledge about Jenrick and await your response with anticipation and a pinch of suspense.
P.S. No insults were included or intended in this post.
But he didnt say he was just testing his eyesight. He said he wanted to check his fitness to drive. I think he said his wife had concerns for his eyesight, he wasnt stopped by the Police either.Can you imagine the reaction of the police if they stopped you in height of the lockdown (mid-April), asked you what the purpose if your journey was, and you said "I'm testing my eyesight"?
Apart from your first paragraph.Sorry for the late reply, it was my Birthday yesterday so went for a long walk on the Malvern hills with my wife followed by a lovely meal she made me in the evening, also catching up with my family on video conferencing, I have children and grandchildren in a number of countries.
Regarding these MPs, I know I had been digging about Kinnock and was being somewhat sarcastic in saying he should resign but my point is that a number in parliament have been doing things that stretch the rules but seems to me Cummings is getting the lions share of attention when hes no worse or better than the others.
They all have excuses to offer when exposed and in just about every case the excuses are open to subjectivity. My personal opinion is that none of them are resigning cases but should have recieved a ticking off for not using better judgement, this includes Cummings, I am of the opinion the amount of outrage along with the media having a feeding frenzy has got out of kilter with what happened.
That's my view on the lot of them, they should have been more aware of the possible outcomes but hand on heart I wouldnt condemn anyone for doing what they felt was best for their families.
I dont understand why you think I have any problems with condemning Jenrick, he means absolutely nothing to me, just like Kinnock and the two or three Labour MPs who's names I cannot be bothered to look up.Apart from your first paragraph.
My take on the rest is that Jenrick (he you could not mention) has left you with egg on your face and instead of acknowledging what he did you now claim your Kinnock posts were simply sarcastic and all of them should be treated with a ticking off.
So the level of the person and the responsibility of the position they hold are irrelevant.
People are just people. All have faults and foibles. Their 'perceived' status should have no bearing on other's judgements of their personal life decisions. Whilst I may or may not approve of my next door neighbour's actions, they have no more or less influence on mine than your's, Nicola Sturgeons's or the Queen's.So the level of the person and the responsibility of the position they hold are irrelevant.