should she be allowed back in the UK?

[Deleted member 15344]

Just listening to a guy on telly who said that it is legally and morally wrong to not allow her to return as she has no other State.
Now could someone enlighten me coz I thought she had joined the IS which is short for Islamic STATE. She has a state, she just don't like it now.

That’s not officially recognised as a nation or a state

 

[Parsaregood]

That’s not officially recognised as a nation or a state

The government should officially take away her right to live in this country

 

[Blue in Munich]

Of course its a fact, I read it on twitter. 👍

Do you question her awareness of what was being carried out against people by Daesh before she decided to go to Syria and be associated with it.

I’m sure she was probably aware of going on, the reasons behind it I don’t know that she is capable of working out at 15. I’m sure The Donald is not the only person capable of spouting fake news and I’m sure that the ISIS recruiters are capable of putting the right spin on it to turn the gullible or naive. I’m equally sure that if she has realised the error of her ways then she’s not stupid enough to shout ISIS are a bunch of scumbags from the safety of a Syrian refugee camp.

 

[Pin-seeker]

To be fair, When I was 15 I spent almost a month thinking that the Tories might just be a worthwhile vote.. So we can all change for the better as we grow up eh?

As she changed her way of thinking?

 

[Parsaregood]

I’m sure she was probably aware of going on, the reasons behind it I don’t know that she is capable of working out at 15. I’m sure The Donald is not the only person capable of spouting fake news and I’m sure that the ISIS recruiters are capable of putting the right spin on it to turn the gullible or naive. I’m equally sure that if she has realised the error of her ways then she’s not stupid enough to shout ISIS are a bunch of scumbags from the safety of a Syrian refugee camp.

She said she has no regrets, the caliphate is over that's the reason she wants to come back. Also she doesn't mind seeing beheaded heads in bins etc. She's as radical as they come and for her to be allowed to potentially spew her poison here would be extremely irresponsible. Also her life would probably be in danger as some far right groups would seek her out.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The government should officially take away her right to live in this country

Well they will need to go through a process to decide if she is a danger to the nation etc because I believe by international law you can’t leave a person without a nationality

 

[Parsaregood]

Well they will need to go through a process to decide if she is a danger to the nation etc because I believe by international law you can’t leave a person without a nationality

I'm pretty sure they have worked out she's a danger to the nation already, the home Secretary says he will do whatever he can to ensure she cannot return. Hope he stays true to his word

 

[Tashyboy]

That’s not officially recognised as a nation or a state

When it comes to Officially, I don't think she was officially bothered about using a false passport to join her unofficial State. So now she wants to use laws to get back to this country. Laws in which she fought against.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm pretty sure they have worked out she's a danger to the nation already, the home Secretary says he will do whatever he can to ensure she cannot return. Hope he stays true to his word

Well that’s one person and I don’t believe he has the right to remove someone’s nationality- I also suspect it’s just a soundbite from a politician. As for being a danger to the nation - well we employ security services to determine that but I suspect they won’t remove her nationality- people who have actually fought for ISIS haven’t had their nationality removed when caught instead charged , punished and serving long prison sentences - this girl I suspect may not have even carried out any type of attack.

When it comes to Officially, I don't think she was officially bothered about using a false passport to join her unofficial State. So now she wants to use laws to get back to this country. Laws in which she fought against.

Yes we know how she left on an ideal of the promised land etc etc but you sentence doesn’t change the fact that ISIS isn’t an official recognised state and she is a British National.

 

[Fade and Die]

Her age is irrelevant, the legal age of responsibility is 10 years old in England.

 

[Parsaregood]

Well that’s one person and I don’t believe he has the right to remove someone’s nationality- I also suspect it’s just a soundbite from a politician. As for being a danger to the nation - well we employ security services to determine that but I suspect they won’t remove her nationality- people who have actually fought for ISIS haven’t had their nationality removed when caught instead charged , punished and serving long prison sentences - this girl I suspect may not have even carried out any type of attack.


Yes we know how she left on an ideal of the promised land etc etc but you sentence doesn’t change the fact that ISIS isn’t an official recognised state and she is a British National.

Prison is too good for them, public hanging or stoning would be a more appropriate sentence. I don't care whether she carried out an attack or not she has the potential to radicalise others and act as a sort of beacon for them. There will be outrage if she is allowed on this soil again and rightly so

 

[Rooter]

Prison is too good for them, public hanging or stoning would be a more appropriate sentence. I don't care whether she carried out an attack or not she has the potential to radicalise others and act as a sort of beacon for them. There will be outrage if she is allowed on this soil again and rightly so

I'll have two pointy ones, two flat ones and a bag of gravel.

 

[SocketRocket]

We should let her come back and be deradicalised in a new resettlement camp situated on South Georgia. That fresh air should help to clear the head of the crap in it now.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Prison is too good for them, public hanging or stoning would be a more appropriate sentence. I don't care whether she carried out an attack or not she has the potential to radicalise others and act as a sort of beacon for them. There will be outrage if she is allowed on this soil again and rightly so

Well that’s not sentences that can be carried out in this country - but it is the sort of sentence ISIS carried out ? We are supposed to be the civilised nation yet you want stoning and hanging ?

The bit in bold - she can also be used as a beacon to show how wrong ISIS is and there is a better life with better choices

As for being outraged- that’s a daily occurrence these days over everything

 

[Parsaregood]

Well that’s not sentences that can be carried out in this country - but it is the sort of sentence ISIS carried out ? We are supposed to be the civilised nation yet you want stoning and hanging ?

The bit in bold - she can also be used as a beacon to show how wrong ISIS is and there is a better life with better choices

As for being outraged- that’s a daily occurrence these days over everything

Yeah she's a great candidate for that saying she doesn't regret a thing. Sometimes things have to be done for the protection of society and removing people like this and removing the harm they do seems like a perfectly reasonable way to help solve the problem. The less of them there are the less of a problem it will be, and perhaps if sentences like this were given, it would actually be a deterrent.

 

[bluewolf]

Now could someone enlighten me coz I thought she had joined the IS which is short for Islamic STATE. She has a state, she just don't like it now.

Oh my God!! 😳😳😳
Does that mean I'm now from 808 State? That's what I spent a load of my teenage years listening to!!!!!!

Help, I've been RADICALised!!!

 

[Imurg]

I'll have two pointy ones, two flat ones and a bag of gravel.

There's no women around here are there...???

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Well that’s one person and I don’t believe he has the right to remove someone’s nationality- I also suspect it’s just a soundbite from a politician. As for being a danger to the nation - well we employ security services to determine that but I suspect they won’t remove her nationality- people who have actually fought for ISIS haven’t had their nationality removed when caught instead charged , punished and serving long prison sentences - this girl I suspect may not have even carried out any type of attack.


Yes we know how she left on an ideal of the promised land etc etc but you sentence doesn’t change the fact that ISIS isn’t an official recognised state and she is a British National.

So if you suspect she may not of carried out any type of attack, why do you hope she doesn’t return? (As you’ve stated)

 

[Rooter]

There's no women around here are there...???

Who said that???

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Yeah she's a great candidate for that saying she doesn't regret a thing. Sometimes things have to be done for the protection of society and removing people like this and removing the harm they do seems like a perfectly reasonable way to help solve the problem. The less of them there are the less of a problem it will be, and perhaps if sentences like this were given, it would actually be a deterrent.

Well first thing the death penalty as a deterrent doesn’t work - in fact it would turn people into martyrs and allow them figures they could look up to.

She has given one interview so far and still within the reaches of ISIS so it’s prob not the best idea to “denounce” considering where she is - sit her down with security authorities and social worker and then an assessment is made - show the UK isn’t the “ horror nation”that it’s portrayed by the radicals