Should .1 be added?

[rulefan]

So it's possible or the reason for discontinuing play can receive sympathetic consideration but not the reason for failing to return the card? Separate cases.

Either or both.

One incident may cause the player not to complete his round. A subsequent incident may prevent his returning his card.

One incident may cause the player not to complete his round or prevent his returning his card.

One incident may cause the player not to complete his round and prevent his returning his card.

All reasons for a player's not being able to satisfy either of the requirements should be considered sympathetically.

 

[chrisd]

I don't think that the card is of primary importance when the discontinuance of the round is one requiring "sympathetic consideration". Serious illness or injury is a circumstance that comes readily to mind. In my case you did really have to be there! My trolley has been rendered u/s, I've nearly been hit, the next group is waiting to tee off, I'm signing the card of the third player, Ashley is shocked and not a little upset. All this happening within a few seconds didn't lead me to think firstly to get my card off Mashley who was my marker and I certainly wasn't going to chase after him whilst he was half way round the back 9. I wrote to the Secretary fully 12 hours before the cards were to be collected from the box and entered in to the computer.

Anyone can say that I did wrong but if an added .1 is going to be put on in these circumstances - well, so be it!

 

[Green Bay Hacker]

That's true and I agree. I mention martin only to illustrate how rules should take precedence over sympathy.

Probably a bit unfair to compare the Martin case as he wanted to use a ride on cart. He declares that he is not physically able to walk the course.

If Chris had the use of a caddie to carry his clubs there would not have been a problem as he is able to walk the course, just not carry his clubs.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

The problem is not all clubs think like this . If a player is injured I cant for the life of me understand why people think he should go up .1 . clubs have a default setting that all golfers are trying it on, and you have to prove why you left the course without finishing the stipulated round I think that's fair enough but when the reason is somebodys broken your trolley or you are in Hospital that's reason enough for me. Lets be honest its only .1 its not the end of the world.

I had to stop after 6 holes of the second round of our club championship a few years ago as by knee went, I tried to play the 7th but couldn't. I had my marker write "retired injured" in large letters on the bottom of the scorecard and sign it and put it in the box. My result got added to the comp as an NR with the comment "retired injured" showing clearly on HDID - I was increased 0.1

 

[clubchamp98]

I had to stop after 6 holes of the second round of our club championship a few years ago as by knee went, I tried to play the 7th but couldn't. I had my marker write "retired injured" in large letters on the bottom of the scorecard and sign it and put it in the box. My result got added to the comp as an NR with the comment "retired injured" showing clearly on HDID - I was increased 0.1

Tough committee you got there.

 

[chrisd]

I had to stop after 6 holes of the second round of our club championship a few years ago as by knee went, I tried to play the 7th but couldn't. I had my marker write "retired injured" in large letters on the bottom of the scorecard and sign it and put it in the box. My result got added to the comp as an NR with the comment "retired injured" showing clearly on HDID - I was increased 0.1

It may have just happened through ignorance of the workings of the CONGU book. The same happened to me a couple of years ago, I rang England Golf and the response I got was that the club should know that a "retired injured" card gets left out and that they should have a policy in place to cover that.

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Tough committee you got there.

It may have just happened through ignorance of the workings of the CONGU book. The same happened to me a couple of years ago, I rang England Golf and the response I got was that the club should know that a "retired injured" card gets left out and that they should have a policy in place to cover that.

I suspect Chris has the right answer in his first sentence.

 

[Fyldewhite]

To me, all this isn't about "getting" or "not getting" 0.1 back. It's about the UHS operating it the way it's supposed to work based on statistics. The system assumes (rightly or wrongly but lets not go there) that all players will try their best to score well every time they go out. If they are unable to do so through no fault of their own (eg injured) then counting that as a 0.1 will (ever so slightly admittedly but it's the principle) skew the players "correct" handicap. There is a judgement to be made but the rule of thumb is that "just a few holes" played would be a disregard, where if a player was injured late in the round the score should probably count. I think the loose wording is intentional (bit like the virtually certain "definition") as there are so many sets of possible circumstances.

 

[chrisd]

Just to update, HDID confirms that the .1 increase has been scrubbed.

 

[rulefan]

Just to update, HDID confirms that the .1 increase has been scrubbed.

Just curious but why don't you use the CDH?

 

[chrisd]

Sorry?

 

[rulefan]

The England Golf Central Database of Handicaps has all the information about your (and everyone elses) playing record, in addition to a pretty decent monthly prize draw for registered members.

It relates to all players with a CONGU handicap, whether using Club2000 or any other software.

http://www.englandgolf.org/members/

 

[chrisd]

I get emails of results and handicap changes from HDID direct to my phone and a change had just popped on it. I do occasionally go on England Golf

 

[Foxholer]

Just to update, HDID confirms that the .1 increase has been scrubbed.

That's a result then (or maybe it's a non-result!).

 

[chrisd]

That's a result then (or maybe it's a non-result!).

Pointless?

 

[AmandaJR]

Pointless?

Pointoneless

 

[chrisd]

Pointoneless

Pointonebutgoingbackonnextwednesdayless:whoo: