Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Jeez, if the Russians who practically (or allegedly if the lawyers are watching) run a state sponsored doping regime in sport are advising its athletes to stop taking it then it must be bad.
Jeez, if the Russians who practically (or allegedly if the lawyers are watching) run a state sponsored doping regime in sport are advising its athletes to stop taking it then it must be bad.
Good sensible post and idea, like many things, I'd like minimum fines and minimum sentences for things, not maximums as maximums are rarely given out and put proper deterrents in place, this attitude of attempting to stay 1 ahead of the governing bodies and winning by knowingly taking PED's designed specifically to enhance performance is just wrong and IS cheating IMO.
I like the idea of doing away with a banned list and they having to declare anything they are using so it can be checked and granted, not the other way around in using something then being warned to stop using it with notice although it has already helped them win many competitions for years and enjoying the fruits of that success.
S
Snelly
Guest
I agree with Chrisd wholeheartedly on this topic. The whole press conference and ensuing reaction has a feel of stage managed PR about it. Odious.
She is a drug cheat in that she has been taking a substance without sensible medical justification that has enhanced her performance since she was 18 with a concocted story created around it to give it some plausibility. Very poor form indeed.
Great idea about an allowed list rather than a banned list too.
She is a drug cheat in that she has been taking a substance without sensible medical justification that has enhanced her performance since she was 18 with a concocted story created around it to give it some plausibility. Very poor form indeed.
Great idea about an allowed list rather than a banned list too.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Norrin Radd
Tour Winner
i caught a small bit of sky sports news this morning and it was said she [Sharapova ]had been warned FIVE times about taking the drug .
if that is correct then there really cant be any comeback for her in any shape or form ,in my eyes she is a cheat and all cheats should receive a lifetime ban from whatever sport they are involved in .
im also liking the if its not on the allowed list then its a banned substance ,will the powers that be ever do it that way round ,i doubt it .
if that is correct then there really cant be any comeback for her in any shape or form ,in my eyes she is a cheat and all cheats should receive a lifetime ban from whatever sport they are involved in .
im also liking the if its not on the allowed list then its a banned substance ,will the powers that be ever do it that way round ,i doubt it .
drdel
Tour Rookie
Its a never ending game in pretty much any area where large sums of money are involved.
The BBC makes nature documentaries with staged studio animals; reality shows are made with actors etc
FI designers try to sneak around the regs. and I wonder if the drinks the drivers take for fluid replacement are only 'tap' water.
Politicians have difficulties with truthful answers to questions.
Sporting competition will always work at the limits and regretfully few athletes or competitors will reach the top without operating at those limits.
There does seem to be an element of doubt in this case as she has never denied taking the medication over a very long period of time and to be caught out immediately the regulation change is very harsh in my view.
Perhaps the authority could have introduced the checks with warning given for the first 6 months the substance is included in the test schedule. At least anyone caught taking the specific substance would have been warned and the substance would have definitely worked through their system meaning any detection was of an obvious 'offence'.
SWMBO has one of these NutriBullet machines which claims to get more goodness from food and make her energised - I best get her banned.
The BBC makes nature documentaries with staged studio animals; reality shows are made with actors etc
FI designers try to sneak around the regs. and I wonder if the drinks the drivers take for fluid replacement are only 'tap' water.
Politicians have difficulties with truthful answers to questions.
Sporting competition will always work at the limits and regretfully few athletes or competitors will reach the top without operating at those limits.
There does seem to be an element of doubt in this case as she has never denied taking the medication over a very long period of time and to be caught out immediately the regulation change is very harsh in my view.
Perhaps the authority could have introduced the checks with warning given for the first 6 months the substance is included in the test schedule. At least anyone caught taking the specific substance would have been warned and the substance would have definitely worked through their system meaning any detection was of an obvious 'offence'.
SWMBO has one of these NutriBullet machines which claims to get more goodness from food and make her energised - I best get her banned.
I find it highly unlikely that Maria would have deliberately continued to take a medicine that had been recently added to the banned list. It was more likely to have been an oversight by herself or her doctor, and in this case she should be given the benefit of the doubt. She didn't win the tournament, so it couldn't have been all that performance enhancing! 
freddielong
Tour Winner
No not by law but in spirit.
What you have to accept is no normal sane Doctor would have prescribed this medication for her, she has bee prescribed this purely to enhance her physicality and improve her tennis.
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Kellfire
Blackballed
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
So next time a Golfer gets a penalty for an incorrect drop don't forget to call him a Cheat...
freddielong
Tour Winner
Is it illegal to pay a Dr to prescribe a drug you do not need?
and more so getting repeat prescriptions for something that should only have a 4-5 week course of treatment but providing them for over 10 years!! That in it's own right is malpractice IMO!
The only reason she has took this drug for so long, like the many other Russian athletes, armed forces and more, is because it had known performancing enhancing properties, nothing to do with her personal health, that's just a smoke screen!
Piece
Tour Winner
Us British, we love a good witch-hunt don't we? Nothing better than this 'sport' of jumping on a bandwagon because it's fashionable to knock someone down a peg or two. Just like 'genius', the word 'cheat' gets thrown around and liberally used, when in fact, it is not required in almost all cases. Further, there always has to be a web of conspiracy behind every story. It's not good enough for most people that it could quite conceivably be a honest, but critically stupid, mistake. No, let's embellish it like some Hollywood mystery action thriller, involving the dark web, aliens and nanotechnology.
I'm no fan of tennis or Sharapova at all, but this reaction is OTT. I agree that since notification of the new banned list, her and her team have been incredibly stupid, naive or potentially manipulating. However, you can't possibly call someone a "cheat" for the previous 10 years. The substance was legal, not on the banned list, despite whatever evidence forum experts find lurking on the web. I presume that the same experts also have knowledge of other substances, like the one in question, that also have future banning potential or are currently known to be dodgy? And a list of who is currently taking them, so that we can all call them a 'future cheat'?
I'm no fan of tennis or Sharapova at all, but this reaction is OTT. I agree that since notification of the new banned list, her and her team have been incredibly stupid, naive or potentially manipulating. However, you can't possibly call someone a "cheat" for the previous 10 years. The substance was legal, not on the banned list, despite whatever evidence forum experts find lurking on the web. I presume that the same experts also have knowledge of other substances, like the one in question, that also have future banning potential or are currently known to be dodgy? And a list of who is currently taking them, so that we can all call them a 'future cheat'?
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Where does it say anywhere she's got this drug illegally?
freddielong
Tour Winner
She doesn't have angina and the drug is not authorised for use in the us or most of Europe how else can she have gotten it.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Not really the answer is it so i'll re-word the question to show where im going.
Who said she got it illegally?
I'll add to it, if she got it illegally then isn't anyone questioning her "dealer"?
Scott W
Assistant Pro
My view (probably stated already as have not read all 36 pages....typically a 36 page thread on Sharapova I would have expected leaked pics!)
She was legal for 10 years, whether she needed it for health reasons or not it was not banned so she was legit...maximising within the rules
She was a muppet for not noticing th change (well her team too)
Is Froome a cheat becuase he has an oxygen tent in his house and they are not banned (yet)
She was legal for 10 years, whether she needed it for health reasons or not it was not banned so she was legit...maximising within the rules
She was a muppet for not noticing th change (well her team too)
Is Froome a cheat becuase he has an oxygen tent in his house and they are not banned (yet)
Many of the performance enhancing drugs that athletes take are in fact just normal prescription medicines that the rest of would take without a thought.
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
freddielong
Tour Winner
They should but don't for some reason they only went after Michael Jackson doctor because of the uproar at his death but he was no different than a drug dealer
