shall i just live with it.

[hovis]

after 4 lessons = £160 and over a 1000 balls =£50 i can't get rid of this over the top swing. even the pro is scatching his head. from analysis all is perfect until transistion and thats's when it goes tit's up. i just can't get the feeling of bringing the club inn from the inside. i've tried many different drill's watched youtube video's til my eye's are square. i dont want to shell out on anymore lessons because i'm going over the same stuff because i've got the same problem

does anyone else on here just accept their flaw's and play with them or dig in and sort it out.

 

[robbest3offthetee]

Charly, Are you enjoying your golf at the moment,if so ,go with what you have,if not and you want to improve,carry on with the lessons,it will get better....

 

[RGDave]

Dig in, for sure.

In the "thing" that I teach, I sometimes come across something that just won't get better. What I do is take extreme action.

Surely if you were to set your expectations at zero, find a cure to get this on track and then build from there, you could cure yourself.

Normally when things won't come, it's because the student is afraid to let go of how they've done it for ages and accept that by doing something new a different will actually stop them functioning at all.

I had a drill once to stop me coming over the top, it was SHOCKING, I couldn't play for a while. I just repeated it in the garden hundreds of times. It wasn't a "feel" thing, it was a shaft in the ground behind me somewhere (don't remember exactly) that forced me to bring the club down "inside" the shaft to hit the ball. I cracked it eventually, went out, played with a draw for a few weeks and had a 76 with a swing that didn't work 3 weeks before.

I appreciate I have no qualification for golf at all, but making something near impossible and pushing something to the extreme to cure the incurable probably applies to all physical activities. But it's a long road.

 

[ScienceBoy]

Try a different pro, maybe find someone who has fixed others like you. You may have to travel a little further but it is always fixable.

I have been swinging too flat recently and after two lessons suddenly I have cracked a steep swing and I hit the ball beautifully. At one point I thought could never get it and now I have I am very happy.

I think all you need is the 10 mins a night practice in front of a mirror, do that for a month and it sticks!

I did that along with any free time at work I had I would practice as well as any time I got some space and was alone!

It paid off but it was a lot of hard work! I was pretty much practising my swing for about an hour a day!

 

[RGDave]

I think all you need is the 10 mins a night practice in front of a mirror, do that for a month and it sticks!

I did that along with any free time at work I had I would practice as well as any time I got some space and was alone!

It paid off but it was a lot of hard work! I was pretty much practising my swing for about an hour a day!

Nice.

Glad to see someone who likes to chip away at a something.

 

[Losttheplot]

Charly what is your weight distribution on address?

Try putting 60-40 on the left side for address. As you take the club back, naturally the weight of the club and the shoulder turn shifts the weight to the right hand side. Then on the downstroke you can just release through the ball. Keep head behind the ball at all times.


This is something I learned to do as I couldn't draw the ball at all and I mean at all. I would just play with a fade and the driver was a slice. Now it's straightened out an I have the option to draw or fade the ball.

Give it a go mate. Worked for me and I was a massive fader/slicer of the ball.

 

[RGDave]

Charly what is your weight distribution on address?

Try putting 60-40 on the left side for address. As you take the club back, naturally the weight of the club and the shoulder turn shifts the weight to the right hand side. Then on the downstroke you can just release through the ball. Keep head behind the ball at all times.


This is something I learned to do as I couldn't draw the ball at all and I mean at all. I would just play with a fade and the driver was a slice. Now it's straightened out an I have the option to draw or fade the ball.

Give it a go mate. Worked for me and I was a massive fader/slicer of the ball.

It a good tip. I'm turning (swinging) in a new way which (so far) seems to be improving my ludicrous lateral shift. One of the good things is improved strike. One of the bad things is swinging in-out and hooking rather too often.

Most players move out of their address position somewhat, but staying still(er) (like stack and tilt for example) really helps with getting the club on line on the way down.

 

[Losttheplot]

I agree Dave, it's almost a Stack and Tilt method but not quite if that makes sense. It stops the lateral movement and makes it into a turn of the hips rather than a slide. Also it's more of a shoulder turn to hit the ball and not using the hips to hit the ball.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Difficult one. On the one hand will a fresh pair of eyes help or will it be a case of someone else telling you what you already know. I guess the question is how destructive are these shots. Is it a case of trying to hit it with finite control and being overly critical or are they producing problems and costing shots. If its the former and you are still scoring then try living with it for a while and seeing what happens

 

[hovis]

Charly what is your weight distribution on address?

Try putting 60-40 on the left side for address

durring my back swing i was loading onto my left leg 90%-10%. so now in the backswing i make sure i get the weight onto my right foot with minimal lateral movement. i found this made it easer to clear the hips on the downswing.

another thing....i've had 2 different replys from 2 different pro's about the downswing. one said 'dont think about moving with the hips first, if your swing is from the inside your brain will automaticly clear the hips to get them out the way' the other pro said. 'at the top of your swing feel the hip drive towards the target first, your brain with instinctively bring the arm's down and from the inside'. I'M CONFUSED

 

[RGDave]

On another thread (by you?, maybe) someone came on and said the way to cure a slice/over the top was simply by learning to initiate the downswing with the left hip. Although it might be a very good idea, if it was the cure to a slice, nobody would bother to have anything but one lesson. There'd be no slicers, there'd be no videos on youtube and most players would instantly drop from beginner to single figure overnight.
I guess some people see it as more important than others. Personally, I've never had a lesson on it, even when I could play to just a few over par with a very steady long game.

 

[quinn]

all these tips that the pros give you ie moving your hips first, bringing the arms down first do work , while your thinking about them it takes your mind of hitting the ball, tried it today just thought about moving my right knee in first seems to make everything fall into place, not once did i think about the ball, best round for a while too

 

[bobmac]

What drills have you tried?

 

[ScienceBoy]

What drills have you tried?

Bosch
Black & Decker
Makita
DeWalt

 

[hovis]

What drills have you tried?

.putting a stick infront and to the right of me at the range about 4 meters away, trying to get the balls to pass on the right side.

.putting the ball on my back foot in the same path as my takeaway and then try and start the ball right and draw it round (3/4 swing). the idea is that if i come over the top then i miss the ball. (this drill has been the best one so far.

. putting a sponge after the ball and to the high side and try to hit the sponge after the ball.

there's a few more but the above one's where pro recomended.

 

[bobmac]

Some interesting drills.

There is a similar sponge drill I use.
Again, take the sponge and place it in front of the ball but to the inside. That way, if you swing out to in, you'll hit the sponge and you will have to go and fetch it.
If you're really ambitious, you can also place another spong/headcover behind the ball and on the outside of the line. This gives you a visual of where the good swing path should go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsrovFJ3o9I

Do you have a video of your swing?

 

[ScienceBoy]

A vial of e coli is just as good as a sponge I hear bob