Doon frae Troon
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I hear that is already being kicked around in Brussels.
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I hear that is already being kicked around in Brussels.
chico
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If the EU could give the UK a bloody nose by engineering a way to guarantee Scotland membership I think they would jump at it. Don't rule anything out in this brave(stupid) New world.
scottbrown
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What makes The SNP think they would be welcomed into the EU? Surely the EU isn't going to want another Greece on its books that Germany has to bank roll?!?!?
And would Scotland accept the Euro? EU rules states new member states must also join the currency union......
Interesting questions, and ones that make me think Sturgeon is all hot air!
And would Scotland accept the Euro? EU rules states new member states must also join the currency union......
Interesting questions, and ones that make me think Sturgeon is all hot air!
chippa1909
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Didn't think I'd see this, but seemingly Herald to lend support soon too.
SocketRocket
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Scotland has no constitutional right to call another independence referendum.
User20205
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You are correct, but is there a moral right?
SocketRocket
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The last referendum made it clear it was a once in a generation decision, it was not conditional on EU membership so IMO there is no moral right.
USER1999
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No.
Right now, it's not a good idea. Economically, an indy Scotland is not a viable option. Their last referendum was based on oil prices supporting the economy. That's now gone. Any vote for independence now is a knee jerk emotional response, akin to spitting the dummy, when you don't get what you wanted.
It would be a stupid response to brexit, especially as the ship they are jumping from may not sink.
User20205
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If I was Scottish I would feel aggrieved that the Britain I voted to stay part of has fundamentally changed.
In the recent spirit of self determination, and the desire to be governed by those who you've actually voted for, it seems like the moral justification would be there.
Great, you can go but it should be warts an all, no sterling, you can have the Euro, no cherry picking, you can adhere to all the Brussels laws they inflict on you, but this time you'll have nobody to blame but yourselves.
see ya, and good luck 👍
Val
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Yes it does, it can ask for one whenever it likes. That doesn't mean it will happen though.
Val
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Go where? You are quoting a post that suggests Scotland are going no where.
Or a moral right for London to demand that it Remains in the EU? It was a UK vote.
Would it be wise for the EU to negotiate directly with Scotland before Article 50 is invoked? And even then would it be wise before Independence has been achieved?
Its posturing, positioning and noise by the SNP. Fair play to them, they are playing a fantastic game.
SocketRocket
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Yes Val, they can ask but only the Westminster Parliament can allow it to happen. Sturgeon is using opportunism at a very bad time that does nothing but create unrest which is not good for the people.
User20205
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What about your keeping Britain 'great'?
User20205
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I'm not Scottish. I'm pleased they voted to stay last year. I think we are stronger together, but I thought that about Europe also. It seems we have entered a new age of insular, isolationist, nationalist politics. If we want freedom from Brussels, why shouldn't they have freedom from Westminster. It's not a government they've elected.
Val
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100% spot on
Didn't say you were. Neither am I. My point is its a UK vote. Just as it is in a General Election. There's plenty of areas/regions in the UK that don't want Tory rule, e.g. the northeast. Should they have independence?
Like in anything, if someone wants out or wants to leave, let them go, grass greener and all that, let them out to play in the big bad world on their own and see how they fare! I'm English first not British and certainly not European, if they think they'll be better off as without us as all they do is whinge about Westminster,, then good riddance, but don't let them come crawling back.
chippa1909
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Well I'm Scottish and European. So I certainly won't miss idiots like you.
