Val
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Yon boy that Rangers had was a player, Templeton, unsure if he got capped though. Gary Locke likewise about the cap, Christophe Berra, Scott Sevrin or was he Aberdeen.
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Doon frae Troon
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As I keep saying only Craig Gordon would merit a mention.
But Pressley, Webster, Berra, Cameron, McCann were goodish players. Between them they won a few Caps.
Not sure how many started at Hearts but I do know that The Rangers and Celtic signed most of them. I have a feeling Webster started at The Rangers.
It is interesting to also note that The Rangers have improved quite a bit since signing the four Hearts players this season. Having a decent, quality manager helps as well.
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Severin and Locke started out at Musselburgh Athletic and Whitehill Welfare respectively. So not 'produced' through the youth ranks. More a case of 'bought from a smaller club' (sounds familiar that) when around 19 or 20.
David Cooper Templeton has kind of dropped out the picture,but started out at Stenhousemuir, not a full international so we can't count him anyway.
I'd actually kind of forgotten about that boy. 
Berra can be added to the other two (a player I quite liked for a spell incidentally). Another nine and we can put a team on the park! Christ, even Hibs have made more of a contribution to the national set up!! D
David Cooper Templeton has kind of dropped out the picture,but started out at Stenhousemuir, not a full international so we can't count him anyway.
I'd actually kind of forgotten about that boy. Berra can be added to the other two (a player I quite liked for a spell incidentally). Another nine and we can put a team on the park! Christ, even Hibs have made more of a contribution to the national set up!! D
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c1973
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Which was the whole point of the question!
Still, you managed to get The Rangers in there. Which is nice, cos we've been calling our team that for donkeys years.
Presley? Inverkeithing then Rangers.
Fact is, your team has contributed the square root of the FA to the national football team in recent years. You might want to bang on about that before pouring scorn on other teams. :thup:
Btw, what 'four' players are you on about? I can think of two........one of which came through our ranks.
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gdunc79
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I read it . :thup:
I would agree with what you say to a certain point, but I think you may have missed the point I was trying to make (not that it matters btw).
I'm aiming my post directly at specific individuals who slate Rangers (in particular) and Celtic every time an opportunity arises (or is engineered, usually by them) to provide examples of players, from their supported clubs youth system, that have came through (apparently it has to be relatively recent and they have to be quality.....or was it decent, I can't keep up tbf) and went on to star for the Scottish national team.
As I see it, their clubs must be doing a great job of bringing them through if they can single out other clubs for their inability.
They don't need to be playing for them, just been spotted, nurtured and come through their youth set up. It shouldn't be difficult to do.
You see, I believe they are trolling but I'm perfectly happy to accept they are debating from a position of strength (knowledge at a stretch).
A few examples (well, more than has been provided to disprove dft) would put my gas at a peep.
I think the points we are both making ARE related. How can we reel off Hearts and St Johnstone players who have starred for Scotland when the whole selection policy over the last 10-15 years has been to downright ignore any players playing outwith the Old Firm and England? Not Hearts & St Johnstone's fault that they don't have a list of past Scotland stars to list of as they will have had players during that time that were playing better than some of the journeymen who consistently got called up regardless of form (Kenny Miller springs to mind). Players like Mark Reynolds of Aberdeen who was outstanding for two seasons were never even called up to the squad - nevermind given a cap!!
Val
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I've heard this a few times now, is it maybe more to the point that Mark Reynolds is/was no better than the players who held the jersey?
2 years ago he would have had to displace Christophe Berra, Andy Webster and Charlie Mulgrew for a slot at centre back thats before the back up of Russell Martin and the clogger Grant Hanley who is incidently a better player than Reynolds.
TBH, he's been steady but no better than who we have currently
This is turning into a brilliant thread. If the Scots are 'fighting' the English about how good England are, they're 'fighting' amongst themselves right down to what colour the corner flags should be - metaphorically speaking of course. Jeez guys, you'd start a fight in an empty room!
gdunc79
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My point is if Reynolds had moved on to Celtic or Hull (for example) during this period he would instantly have been in the Scotland squad which shows how ridiculous the selection policy is and why young players at "smaller" clubs rarely make it to the national team until they join a fashionable team. Reynolds is / was a far better player than Andy Webster. Charlie Mulgrew? meh.
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I'm amazed they've managed 126 posts discussing it!
ger147
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You are clearly not up to speed with how the Scotsman works. We are ALWAYS fighting/arguing about something, and the only thing that stops us arguiung with each other is when an Englishman turns up
Val
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He's not, if he was that good he wouldn't be with Aberdeen. If he was good enough he would be with Celtic or the likes of Hull.
I do get your point but the reality is better players play for better teams, teams in the championship in England are better than the bulk of the SPFL therefore players will move there.
The Scottish National squad consists of the best Scottish (qualified) players, the reality of that is the vast majority of the best players play in England because the quality of football and players tends to be better there.
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FairwayDodger
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Aye but have you noticed how this thread has united Rangers and Celtic fans!? This could be a new-era in OF cooperation.... on the GM forum at least!
Val
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FairwayDodger
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Doon frae Troon
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Same point with Leigh Griffiths was a great player with Hibs but he was playing within a team at least a couple of stages behind him.
Moved to Celtic and became an 'automatic' Scotland squad player.
Still the same quality of player than at Hibs [IMO] just playing with a team of equal quality players.
Doon frae Troon
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My role as a peace maker has not gone unnoticed.:lol:
FairwayDodger
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I'd disagree with that. A decent player at Hibs but very inconsistent and with a terrible disciplinary record. I was very surprised Celtic went in for him and I didn't expect him to succeed there but he really seems to have turned it around and probably merits an international spot now.
gdunc79
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The SFA blinkered view in a nutshell. Are you Gordon Strachan in disguise?
gdunc79
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He scored 31 goals in 66 appearances for a not great Hibs side. Not exactly inconsistent. A decent player, even when not playing at a "big" club.
Val
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No, im a realist.
Answer me how many good teams Aberdeen have managed to beat in their European adventures this last few years.
