Scotland Debate

[DCB]

:rofl: sums up the YES campaigns plans for the future- a Uni science project that in a lab shows 'favourable results'.

yup, I'll stake my mortgage on that then:rofl:

That's not necessarily as silly as it sounds. Some of the previous research projects from Glasgow Uni have gone on to become commercially viable products. I remember looking at two different items in the past that did indeed become earners for those who ' bought in ' to the idea. My boss at the time was amazed at the simplicity of one of the items and how they'd packaged it in a manner that was so simple, many would have discarded it at the first glance. If this capture technology does indeed work, someone will buy it without a second glance.

 

[CMAC]

That's not necessarily as silly as it sounds. Some of the previous research projects from Glasgow Uni have gone on to become commercially viable products. I remember looking at two different items in the past that did indeed become earners for those who ' bought in ' to the idea. My boss at the time was amazed at the simplicity of one of the items and how they'd packaged it in a manner that was so simple, many would have discarded it at the first glance. If this capture technology does indeed work, someone will buy it without a second glance.

but ya wouldnt bankroll a whole country on it would ya!

 

[Foxholer]

If Scotland should become independent I wonder as a sovereign nation how taxing 6million people will be able to afford
1. free health care for all
2. Unemployment benefits
3 Child benefits
4 Postage across their whole country at a standard rate
5 Air traffic control systems
6 Build a central Bank reserve
7 A defence capability, I know they are claiming £15bn of assets from the UK but whose is gone to pay training personnel and there will be about £5bn million per year to operate the kit. Whole will police their airspace against the Russian Bear aircraft I'm sure Mr Putin will enjoy playing games across the air corridors and sending his submarines into areas around where the oil is supposedly located.

All this and loads more is supposedly going to come from Oil taxes.

I worry that neither side has even dreamt of the real consequences but if the Yes vote wins the average Scot is surely going to be paying a very high price to learn

The same way New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland and other similarly sized countries do - and have done for decades!

And Defence doesn't seem to be a problem for those countries! Who's to say Russian subs aren't nosing about North Sea oil fields already - though for what purpose, I have no idea. Seems the Daily Mail propoganda has found a recipient!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

but ya wouldnt bankroll a whole country on it would ya!

I think the company who replace petrol would make the odd bawbee.

 

[One Planer]

Going off on a little tangent here.

A question for the YES voters.

Do you feel all the questions posed regarding your countries future have been answered adequately by the YES campaign?

 

[Dodger]

Tonight on the BBC Referendum Debate, presenter James Cook revealed he was sent a Treasury briefing on RBS without requesting it - and before an announcement had been made by the bank itself.

The First Minister is now demanding full disclosure from the Treasury........

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Going off on a little tangent here.

A question for the YES voters.

Do you feel all the questions posed regarding your countries future have been answered adequately by the YES campaign?

Of course not but less so than the No voters last minute panic measures.
We are voting for a pig in a poke whatever way we vote.
I have no doubt that a CU will be traded off against Trident, I think that deal has already been agreed. Why else would Salmond be so quiet on his ace card.

BBC just said that 6,000 protesters were outside their Scottish headquarters.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Tonight on the BBC Referendum Debate, presenter James Cook revealed he was sent a Treasury briefing on RBS without requesting it - and before an announcement had been made by the bank itself.

The First Minister is now demanding full disclosure from the Treasury........

The First Minister can demand whatever he likes - currently he is trying to have his country leave the UK so no doubt the Treasury can tell exactly where to go.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Of course not but less so than the No voters last minute panic measures.
We are voting for a pig in a poke whatever way we vote.
I have no doubt that a CU will be traded off against Trident, I think that deal has already been agreed. Why else would Salmond be so quiet on his ace card.

BBC just said that 6,000 protesters were outside their Scottish headquarters.

Surely not on the bias BBC - did you it claim they were saying it was 350 ?

 

[Foxholer]

Tonight on the BBC Referendum Debate, presenter James Cook revealed he was sent a Treasury briefing on RBS without requesting it - and before an announcement had been made by the bank itself.

The First Minister is now demanding full disclosure from the Treasury........

That could quite possibly be the case. But it would have had a dirty great big 'Embargoed until ......', or equivalent, notice stamped on it! So that would be yet another example of mis (or incomplete) information! It's a standard method of working with the media that allows info to be distributed fairly and simply.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Surely not on the bias BBC - did you it claim they were saying it was 350 ?

They sent the Janny doon to do a recount.

 

[the smiling assassin]

Watched tonight's debate, yes side took a real beating, sad to the celeb panellist clutching at so many straws, uncomfortable viewing.

 

[SocketRocket]

I wonder what Uncle Sam would think about Trident being kicked out of Scotland. I would imagine it would initiate a veto on the Scots joining NATO and a number of trade sanctions to boot!

 

[CMAC]

YES bully boy tactics? You decide!

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffee...-yes-side-mastered-the-art-of-mob-politics-2/

 

[williamalex1]

I wonder what Uncle Sam would think about Trident being kicked out of Scotland. I would imagine it would initiate a veto on the Scots joining NATO and a number of trade sanctions to boot!

Maybe Putin a offer to some other super power could happen.:smirk:

 

[Captainron]

My missus was up in Scotland for the weekend. Says it felt like when she lived in Northern Ireland back in the day.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Did anyone else catch the Radio 4 program discussing the YES/NO vote, on Friday night I think it was? tuned in halfway through so missed the names, but it really seemed like the arguments being put across by the YES representatives were shot down so easily. Form listening to that, it was hard to wonder how it's got so close, some of there suggestions were just laughable.

 

[Dodger]

That could quite possibly be the case. But it would have had a dirty great big 'Embargoed until ......', or equivalent, notice stamped on it! So that would be yet another example of mis (or incomplete) information! It's a standard method of working with the media that allows info to be distributed fairly and simply.

Not the way the Treasury released it which was apparently highly illegal.

Westminster and dodgy dealings? Who'd have thought it?

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Not the way the Treasury released it which was apparently highly illegal.

Westminster and dodgy dealings? Who'd have thought it?

I think what would have been more accurate if you had said "Politicians and dodgy dealings? Who'd have thought it?"

Do you honestly believe that come and iScotland, the politicans will be saints, the Companies will cut all prices, and everyone will fart rainbows?!

 

[SocketRocket]

Maybe Putin a offer to some other super power could happen.:smirk:

China or Russia? They would make really good bedmates