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Debated ?! Actually they have been ignored with the answer normally - scaremongering or we don't need a plan b

And in answer does your question - no it doesn't concern me and it being made such a big deal is the Yes can loan being desperate to find something to grab a hold of to try and deflect the gaping holes in the yes campaign policies.

A question you have been asked countless times is - why are you and the yes campaign more concerned in how the the message is delivered as opposed to the message itself ?

The BBC isn't bias - it hasn't delivered incorrect facts - it's all paranoia and something the yes campaign have grabbed to are currently hanging onto

No doubt if a no vote happens they now have someone to blame

Did you read the blog which dismisses the bias claim ?

Only an idiot would claim there has been no bias.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/polit...ely-dont-get-me-wrong-i-like-these-f.25322002
 
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Is there not going to be a "leave the EU" referendum in the next couple of years or is that not happening now?

Proposed in 2017 I thought if the Conservatives wins the 2015 election

No doubt UKIP would propose one - possibly labour might

Crystal ball very cloudy right now
 
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I think the Yes campaign have a fairly serious case for a void and a re run if they fail to win.


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And that is your crowning glory of posts

I didn't think anything would ever beat the idea of moving the Scottish border south into North of England but that beats it hands down

Thankfully I reckon you are just on a wind up because no one could post something like that and be serious

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Today there is a protest in Glasgow's BBC place,a protest against their bias.

BBC have reported 350 there.

From the pictures and social media reports they appear to have missed a zero off that report.

No,no of course there has not been any bias from them.:mad:

Interesting to see if the demonstration is actually featured on the BBC news.

As I said only an idiot would say that there has not been a bias from the BBC.
 
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Today there is a protest in Glasgow's BBC place,a protest against their bias.

BBC have reported 350 there.

From the pictures and social media reports they appear to have missed a zero off that report.

No,no of course there has not been any bias from them.:mad:

Interesting to see if the demonstration is actually featured on the BBC news.

As I said only an idiot would say that there has not been a bias from the BBC.


Nice to see they are all concentrating on the real important issues in regards the referendum

Why would it feature on the news ? In the grand scheme if things it meaningless - 300 or 3000 - it's meaningless , if people focus on it then they must not be very sure of their policies which is what they should be focusing on.

Its quite funny the focus on the BBC from the yes campaign - just shows a level of desperation.
 

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Nice to see they are all concentrating on the real important issues in regards the referendum

Why would it feature on the news ? In the grand scheme if things it meaningless - 300 or 3000 - it's meaningless , if people focus on it then they must not be very sure of their policies which is what they should be focusing on.

Its quite funny the focus on the BBC from the yes campaign - just shows a level of desperation.

It's worrying that you don't believe that the national broadcaster should be impartial and even more worrying that you can't see the issue in the fact that they most certainly are not.

They are huge players in this when in reality they should not be.
 
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It's worrying that you don't believe that the national broadcaster should be impartial and even more worrying that you can't see the issue in the fact that they most certainly are not.

They are huge players in this when in reality they should not be.

If people in Scotland get influenced by what the BBC report ( when if they miss anything there are many other media outlets reporting things ) then that says a great deal about the yes campaign

The Yes campaign should be focusing on persuading people to vote yes and highlighting how a yes vote could improve the country and provide solid grounding for those reasons and provide the answers to the hard questions

Nope instead they will complain about the BBC , complain about the treasury - spending more time complaining than actually trying to persuade voters - it's a smokescreen to cover up the massive cracks in the policies of the Yes campaign.

Maybe instead of attacking the people that deliver the message have a look at the message being delivered.
 

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If people in Scotland get influenced by what the BBC report ( when if they miss anything there are many other media outlets reporting things ) then that says a great deal about the yes campaign

The Yes campaign should be focusing on persuading people to vote yes and highlighting how a yes vote could improve the country and provide solid grounding for those reasons and provide the answers to the hard questions

Nope instead they will complain about the BBC , complain about the treasury - spending more time complaining than actually trying to persuade voters - it's a smokescreen to cover up the massive cracks in the policies of the Yes campaign.

Maybe instead of attacking the people that deliver the message have a look at the message being delivered.

So you admit that there is a bias then?

I am more than happy with the message that is being delivered from the right people. This next few days will be monumental and I'm glad to see the majority are seeing through the BBC and Westminster propaganda that is being delivered.
 
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So you admit that there is a bias then?

I am more than happy with the message that is being delivered from the right people. This next few days will be monumental and I'm glad to see the majority are seeing through the BBC and Westminster propaganda that is being delivered.

I have no idea - doesn't seem that way but I know it is certainly not the most important thing people in Scotland right now should be worried about

Yes you are happy with the message being delivered - if it's a positive message about the Yes campaign

Perfect example in recent days

RBS report they will be possibly moving from Scotland along with other banks and companies which could lead to job losses

This is reported to the BBC and they report it -

Yes campaign response - scaremongering and attack on the BBC for being bias - ignore that actual message that big businesses and banks could well leave Scotland which would mean job losses - which is the important part and instead attack the BBC for the way it's reported

The yes campaign should be concentrating on responding to these statements and tryin to find ways to turn that negative into a positive - they should be trying to counter it

Nope instead the result to "scaremongering" responses - protests against the BBC and just dismissing a statement or report that suggest Scotland voting yes could well be a bad thing that could hit the people of Scotland in the pocket badly.
 

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I have no idea - doesn't seem that way but I know it is certainly not the most important thing people in Scotland right now should be worried about

Yes you are happy with the message being delivered - if it's a positive message about the Yes campaign

Perfect example in recent days

RBS report they will be possibly moving from Scotland along with other banks and companies which could lead to job losses

This is reported to the BBC and they report it -

Yes campaign response - scaremongering and attack on the BBC for being bias - ignore that actual message that big businesses and banks could well leave Scotland which would mean job losses - which is the important part and instead attack the BBC for the way it's reported

The yes campaign should be concentrating on responding to these statements and tryin to find ways to turn that negative into a positive - they should be trying to counter it

Nope instead the result to "scaremongering" responses - protests against the BBC and just dismissing a statement or report that suggest Scotland voting yes could well be a bad thing that could hit the people of Scotland in the pocket badly.


It is a contingency plan.Rightly so they have looked into this.

RBS will not move mark my words.

A lot of negatives are being focused on. 100 years of oil will ensure that many companies will be attracted to our country but nobody is reporting that.
 
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It is a contingency plan.Rightly so they have looked into this.

RBS will not move mark my words.

A lot of negatives are being focused on. 100 years of oil will ensure that many companies will be attracted to our country but nobody is reporting that.


Yet experts says 40 years of oil not 100

And RBS have said they will move if a Yes

And your response is stereotypical Salmond - no they won't ?!

Sorry but that ignoring it and just dismissing it

The company themselves have told you they may well move if a yes vote happens - well what happens if what they are saying happens

What happens if every negative that is being mentioned happens ? It's just being ignored - being swept under the carpet and being denied there is ever a chance of it happening

And it's those type of responses that will scare people and mean a no vote is looking likely to win - because the Yes campaign don't have the answers to counter.

This picture sums it up

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Yet experts says 40 years of oil not 100

And RBS have said they will move if a Yes

And your response is stereotypical Salmond - no they won't ?!

Sorry but that ignoring it and just dismissing it

The company themselves have told you they may well move if a yes vote happens - well what happens if what they are saying happens

What happens if every negative that is being mentioned happens ? It's just being ignored - being swept under the carpet and being denied there is ever a chance of it happening

And it's those type of responses that will scare people and mean a no vote is looking likely to win - because the Yes campaign don't have the answers to counter.

This picture sums it up

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100 years of WEST coast oil that is untapped.

Not surprised you have not heard about it though.
 
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100 years of WEST coast oil that is untapped.

Not surprised you have not heard about it though.

Do you mean in the areas of the Hebrides in the very deep water and the geogically difficult to access and will cost over £1.5 billion to possible try and extract with no guarantees ??

A few other reports

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...1edfd9-d0ec-4bb2-826b-38c76bb113aa_story.html

http://www.energyvoice.com/2014/09/...nd-separatists-claim-uk-oil-40-year-campaign/
 
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Do you mean in the areas of the Hebrides in the very deep water and the geogically difficult to access and will cost over £1.5 billion to possible try and extract with no guarantees ??

http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news...ntapped-oil-and-gas-reserves-worth-trillions/

Industry experts.

Not some bloke that support Liverpool and thinks he knows everything.

You could start a war in an empty room.

The cost is nothing.The companies would spend it to accumulate that amount of that there is no doubt.
 
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http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news...ntapped-oil-and-gas-reserves-worth-trillions/

Industry experts.

Not some bloke that support Liverpool and thinks he knows everything.

You could start a war in an empty room.

The cost is nothing.The companies would spend it to accumulate that amount of that there is no doubt.

The investigation also found over the next 10 years upwards of one million barrels a day could be pumped from the Atlantic Margins if more than £1.5 billion is invested to extract it.

Have you told these companies that they should invest the £1.5billion - seems a no brainer - wonder why they aren't doing it right now

Wonder why there is a decline in oil production since 1999 in the UK

But it is interesting that when "experts" produce reports showing something negative they get dismissed so quickly

Wonder if this person supports Liverpool

Ian Wood, who built a global energy services company, says there could be between 15 billion and 16.5 billion barrels of oil and gas still to be recovered from Scottish waters. That's far short of the 24 billion barrels, worth £1.5 trillion, claimed by the Scottish government.
Wood told industry website energyvoice.com last month that declining production would start to hit Scottish jobs and the economy in 15 years.
BP (BP), which has been pumping oil from the North Sea for 50 years, said the industry would be best served by keeping the U.K. together.
"However, the province is now mature and I believe Sir Ian Wood correctly assesses its future potential," BP CEO Bob Dudley said.
Shell (RDSA) CEO Ben van Beurden said much of the North Sea's remaining reserves were likely to be in isolated or remote areas, making them unprofitable to develop without improved tax incentives.
"As existing infrastructure gets older and output falls, costs will go up and tax receipts will come down," van Beurden said.
 
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