Scotland Debate

[Doon frae Troon]

Last night of The Proms......do you think they will end it with a Scottish medley for a change, Am Gonna Be instead of Jeruselam.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

 

[CMAC]

Some really idiotic comments on here by a few, I don't believe you realise it's not a political vote and you are voting yes for all the wrong reasons! Facts are being ignored and characters attacked. I really can't understand why you choose to be so myopic in your view and childlike (just one really) in your postings.

If you win you will have dealt a very damaging blow to the whole country and killed Scotland in the process.

 

[FairwayDodger]

Thought the first article was a report on what two ex-Scottish rugby players feel about independence. Surely, as Scots, they are allowed to be vocal "no's."

But I do think elements of the second article sail very close to the wind. But I would agree I wouldn't trust the guy. Extremely skilled politician but yuk!

I don't agree with much that dodger posts but that first article was truly offensive. I intensely dislike salmond and sturgeon but whether they have kids or not is completely irrelevant.

 

[Captainron]

All this referendum is making clear is the division amongst the people of Scotland. At least when Norway went for it they were 99% united.

It saddens me and I am worried about recriminations against the 'losing' side.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I was under the impression that Norway had been an independent country for years.

 

[DCB]

Some really idiotic comments on here by a few, I don't believe you realise it's not a political vote and you are voting yes for all the wrong reasons! Facts are being ignored and characters attacked. I really can't understand why you choose to be so myopic in your view and childlike (just one really) in your postings.

If you win you will have dealt a very damaging blow to the whole country and killed Scotland in the process.

The whole thing has already made some rather sad changes to what we were. I'm concerned with what will happen if it is a very very close vote and some of those who chose the wrong way don't take kindly to the outcome. I also see issues, should it go with a Yes outcome, where there will be people who feel things aren't going as fast or as well as they were promised.

Important week ahead, probably the most important for a long time.

 

[Foxholer]

I don't agree with much that dodger posts but that first article was truly offensive. I intensely dislike salmond and sturgeon but whether they have kids or not is completely irrelevant.

Both articles demonstrate the 'propoganda' nature of the DM that is what I detest about it. It's not a Newspaper for me so much as uses the medium to distribute its views. The 'Wentworth Sold' article demonstrating how an article can be full of errors and irrelevancies while getting they use the item to indoctrinate the reader with their political view!

 

[fundy]

Not sure if its been posted before but Kevin Bridges more lighthearted view worth watching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2BKrh43rhI

 

[Dodger]

[video]http://new.livestream.com/IndependenceLive/BBCBiasV[/video]

 

[Deleted member 15344]

[video]http://new.livestream.com/IndependenceLive/BBCBiasV[/video]

So the yes people still continue to worry about the important things then like the BBC instead of tackling the issue that really matter

I guess it's masks the holes

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I would have thought that BBC [State Broadcasting] political bias was a fairly important issue for the British public.
You would need to be blind, deaf or totally stupid not to notice it in this referendum.

 

[Dodger]

26 minutes in Tommy takes old weetabix heed to the cleaners.

I always think Tommy is going to nut someone....:lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04gmjl7/sunday-politics-14092014

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I would have thought that BBC [State Broadcasting] political bias was a fairly important issue for the British public.
You would need to be blind, deaf or totally stupid not to notice it in this referendum.

Don't see it as important at all - certainly no where near enough to be the news some are making it out to be

It's being used to mask the issues the yes campaign can't seem to tackle head on.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/03/yes-of-course-the-bbc-is-biased-against-you/

 

[Doon frae Troon]

26 minutes in Tommy takes old weetabix heed to the cleaners.

I always think Tommy is going to nut someone....:lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04gmjl7/sunday-politics-14092014

He does frighten folk did you notice Neil edging further and further away from him!!..........the only banks you will see closing in an Independent Scotland will be food banks. Great line.

 

[Dodger]

He does frighten folk did you notice Neil edging further and further away from him!!..........the only banks you will see closing in an Independent Scotland will be food banks. Great line.

A dodgier man you'll not find but I love his passion.

Would not like a scrap with him!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Don't see it as important at all - certainly no where near enough to be the news some are making it out to be

It's being used to mask the issues the yes campaign can't seem to tackle head on.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/03/yes-of-course-the-bbc-is-biased-against-you/

I am sure you are aware that it goes way beyond that.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I am sure you are aware that it goes way beyond that.

You are in the closing stages of a massively important vote and you are too busy worrying about an "apparent" bias ( more paranoia than anything ) as opposed to tackling the real issues of the independance vote - it gives the yes campaign an excuse to avoid having to tackles those real issues - currency , EU membership , defence , budgets , NATO membership , NHS , taxes - all issues with that have so many questions but don't get answered by the yes campaign.

The importance appears to be attacking the people delivering messages as opposed to tackling the content of the message being delivered

It as if the whole yes campaign is walking around sticking it's fingers in it's ears and ignoring those real issues.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I think you will find that, like the West Lothian question, these things you mention have been debated to a standstill.

With a very close vote expected, after the debating, does it not concern you that the national broadcasting service is misreporting against one of the two sides.

Instead of dancing around the question I am asking a simple yes or no will do

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I think you will find that, like the West Lothian question, these things you mention have been debated to a standstill.

With a very close vote expected, after the debating, does it not concern you that the national broadcasting service is misreporting against one of the two sides.

Instead of dancing around the question I am asking a simple yes or no will do

Debated ?! Actually they have been ignored with the answer normally - scaremongering or we don't need a plan b

And in answer does your question - no it doesn't concern me and it being made such a big deal is the Yes can loan being desperate to find something to grab a hold of to try and deflect the gaping holes in the yes campaign policies.

A question you have been asked countless times is - why are you and the yes campaign more concerned in how the the message is delivered as opposed to the message itself ?

The BBC isn't bias - it hasn't delivered incorrect facts - it's all paranoia and something the yes campaign have grabbed to are currently hanging onto

No doubt if a no vote happens they now have someone to blame

Did you read the blog which dismisses the bias claim ?