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Scotland Debate

I see MacCameroon is using the CBI conference to lecture to us whilst hiding behind his sofa.

Shame on him, poor excuse for a Tory leader, show a bit of backbone man.

A complete coward.I'd put a hefty bet that if Thatcher was still PM she'd be up here all the time debating anyone and everyone.A woman generally despised would have front up, but this PM is terrified of his image and taking a beating he's not prepared to do anything but preach to a select group of business folk.
 
A complete coward.I'd put a hefty bet that if Thatcher was still PM she'd be up here all the time debating anyone and everyone.A woman generally despised would have front up, but this PM is terrified of his image and taking a beating he's not prepared to do anything but preach to a select group of business folk.

more than likely putting a few more feelers or for when he resigns. you cant be an exec board member of too many companies;)
 
Wondering about Cameron's position when a NO vote and he is pressurised from North of Border to define and commit to delivery dates for 'new powers' to be devolved to Holyrood - and at same time as being pressurised from South of Border to tell us about what the plan for is for revision of the Barnett Formula with or without these 'new powers' - and on Westminster voting reform to address the West Lothian question.
 
Wondering about Cameron's position when a NO vote and he is pressurised from North of Border to define and commit to delivery dates for 'new powers' to be devolved to Holyrood - and at same time as being pressurised from South of Border to tell us about what the plan for is for revision of the Barnett Formula with or without these 'new powers' - and on Westminster voting reform to address the West Lothian question.

The West Lothian question gives a good excuse for much needed parliament reform.

Scrap the lords, elected 2nd chamber and English devolution. Reduce UK MP list by about 75%.

Sorted.....my consultancy fee of £3billion pounds is being sent to Westminster.
 
Cameron in Glasgow today addressing business leaders- apparently its now 150 Captains of industry against a yes vote.
 

yes I saw that before, theres even an owner of a business I'm involved with:eek:

They do look like small concerns like the Cluthie guest house and a dog groomers etc but you are right, one vote.

I'm hoping as the 150 are leaders of substantial business's that there will be an influence to their followers and respecters.
 
yes I saw that before, theres even an owner of a business I'm involved with:eek:

They do look like small concerns like the Cluthie guest house and a dog groomers etc but you are right, one vote.

I'm hoping as the 150 are leaders of substantial business's that there will be an influence to their followers and respecters.

the part highlighted...followers and respecters? Seriously? Do these followers and respecters still doff their cap to these leaders?It's not the 1800's you know!
 
the part highlighted...followers and respecters? Seriously? Do these followers and respecters still doff their cap to these leaders?It's not the 1800's you know!
I've always respected who I work for, dont you? anyone I didnt respect I moved on. Respect isnt about fear which is where your doffed cap comes from.
Surprised at you trying to stir that one, slow day?
 
I've always respected who I work for, dont you? anyone I didnt respect I moved on. Respect isnt about fear which is where your doffed cap comes from.
Surprised at you trying to stir that one, slow day?

the phrase respecters and followers piqued my interest, I hadn't heard it before. I've pretty much been an employer rather than an employee all my working life and I'm not fussed if my staff respect me or not...as long as they work hard,earn their wage and don't mess about.
 
the phrase respecters and followers piqued my interest, I hadn't heard it before. I've pretty much been an employer rather than an employee all my working life and I'm not fussed if my staff respect me or not...as long as they work hard,earn their wage and don't mess about.

yes I phrased that badly, more influencers. Certainly any staff that report to me don't 'follow' my views nor would I want them to, they have their own mind.
 
..and so I hear on lunchtime news of the defection of a prominent Tory to UKIP. Now I don't know if he is aware or that much cares that there is a referendum in three weeks and that many Scots aren't great fans of UKIP or UKIP-type policies - so why did he not wait. Of course not very many voters in Scotland are going to be bothered about this guy - but why do this now? Why did he just not just wait three weeks. His defection just goes to add to a feeling that many in Scotland have that England is moving further from the traditional Scottish view on life and all that it brings us.
 
..and so I hear on lunchtime news of the defection of a prominent Tory to UKIP. Now I don't know if he is aware or that much cares that there is a referendum in three weeks and that many Scots aren't great fans of UKIP or UKIP-type policies - so why did he not wait. Of course not very many voters in Scotland are going to be bothered about this guy - but why do this now? Why did he just not just wait three weeks. His defection just goes to add to a feeling that many in Scotland have that England is moving further from the traditional Scottish view on life and all that it brings us.


On the other hand it rather lessens the theory, often peddled on here, that there will be a Tory/UKIP coalition.

After all if Douglas Carswell really thought that was likely why would he now be defecting.
 
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