SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
When I'm home at my mother's my local RS McColls (yes that dates me I know) gives me the Record free when I buy The Herald and The i - but to be honest even free it isn't worth spending my time reading it
Scotland Debate
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When I'm home at my mother's my local RS McColls (yes that dates me I know) gives me the Record free when I buy The Herald and The i - but to be honest even free it isn't worth spending my time reading it
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
erm...no...he isn't - Chairman of Orion Group (I think his nametag said). So putting the BT case - an international rugby player who went to private school (George Watsons College, Edinburgh) and an English businessman Hmmm. Ach well - BT campaign is a broad church. Unfortunately I don't think they made much of a case for BT
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Adi2Dassler
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These guys?
[video=youtube;pmGjiokfQ2A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmGjiokfQ2A[/video]
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c1973
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I've always said 'never drink on an empty heid'. I think that's decent evidence the empty heid part is more worrying than the drink.
:rofl:
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c1973
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I'm inclined to believe they will be voting no AND they support Rangers, not BECAUSE (I may be wrong, as you do seem to know a lot of people with some strange,indeed sometimes contentious, imo, thoughts on independence).
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Not just these numpties. If some of them will leave Scotland if there is a YES - then what an incentive to vote YES. Good luck Wales mind! They don't want to come to England which is a relief.
Unfortunately not just the brain dead but some intelligent folks supporting Rangers wrapping themselves in teh Union Jack - becuase that's what Rangers stands for to them. Ah well.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
The Orion Chairman did seem to colour up a bit with the [for him] unexpected audience response to his silly statement.
He was doing quite well up to then.
Moving in the wrong circles perhaps.
He was doing quite well up to then.
Moving in the wrong circles perhaps.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Yes, and he is not wrong. Many will vote through anti english sentiment which will be dressed up as a split from Westminster and the south.
It wouldn't surprise me but don't tar them all with the same brush (but tar most
)I'm inclined to believe they will be voting no AND they support Rangers, not BECAUSE (I may be wrong, as you do seem to know a lot of people with some strange,indeed sometimes contentious, imo, thoughts on independence).
Don't let a good headline separate hard facts eh
Bearing in mind that James VI of Scotland became James I of England/United Kingdom, I think the English should have a refendum on leaving the UK!
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Bearing in mind that James VI of Scotland became James I of England/United Kingdom, I think the English should have a refendum on leaving the UK!
.......and QE2 should have been named QE1
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
It's not earth shattering news that the majority of Rangers supporters will probably vote NO.The culture of Rangers as an institution is one of being proud to be British, to support The Orange Order, God Save The Queen and Rule Britannia.I've got no issue with that ( except the orange order, who I really don't like)
But interestingly, there is (pretty unscientific) info suggesting the opposite.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/old-firm-united-both-celtic-3598872
If you look the two biggest fan sites for Hibs and Hearts, you'll find that they too are pretty big supporters of YES
http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?271802-Scottish-Independence
http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index...m-superthread-campaign-posts-will-be-removed/
That one from kickback isn't actually a poll but a long and decent read imo.They do run a monthly poll which I couldn;t find that always comes down heavily pro indy
HOWEVER.I think that online football fans aren't the best sample from any team.Always gonna who more left wing imo, just like a golf forum isn't the best sample either...always gonna be more right wing imo...the natures of their sports.
But interestingly, there is (pretty unscientific) info suggesting the opposite.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/old-firm-united-both-celtic-3598872
If you look the two biggest fan sites for Hibs and Hearts, you'll find that they too are pretty big supporters of YES
http://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?271802-Scottish-Independence
http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index...m-superthread-campaign-posts-will-be-removed/
That one from kickback isn't actually a poll but a long and decent read imo.They do run a monthly poll which I couldn;t find that always comes down heavily pro indy
HOWEVER.I think that online football fans aren't the best sample from any team.Always gonna who more left wing imo, just like a golf forum isn't the best sample either...always gonna be more right wing imo...the natures of their sports.
Fair point!!! Seriously, I think further sub-dividing our relatively small island is not a good idea. Scotland already has a fair degree of independence, and goodies that the rest of the UK don't get such as free University tuition fees. Not to mention loads of very cheap municipal golf courses! Leave the UK as it is!.......and QE2 should have been named QE1
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Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
........and for folk who think this forum strange.
The Hibs football forum were discussing early lending libraries on the Independence thread.
The Hibs football forum were discussing early lending libraries on the Independence thread.
Adi2Dassler
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Here's something to think about if you have any interest in The NHS
[video=youtube;esV6pGo8UTI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esV6pGo8UTI[/video]
[video=youtube;esV6pGo8UTI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esV6pGo8UTI[/video]
Old Skier
Tour Winner
I'm inclined to believe they will be voting no AND they support Rangers, not BECAUSE (I may be wrong, as you do seem to know a lot of people with some strange,indeed sometimes contentious, imo, thoughts on independence).
Im inclined to believe they won't even be arrsed to vote unless someone sets up a polling station in the pub.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
I haven't even watched this but wouldn't give it the time of day. Can someone explain to me why if Scotland vote no why would they be excluded from the free NHS?
Absolute nonsense.
Adi2Dassler
Journeyman Pro
You'll need to watch it to find out
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c1973
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Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
I would second that. Open your mind to another view.
I have heard some sorry NHS tales from my English friends and relatives.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
So we have someone from Ireland with a German husband knocking GB and scaremongering about the NHS with no facts backing up the claim. Sounds like a lady who would be heading for a well paid job if you get an iscot. And a public sector worker. Wonder if she was sticking yesterday.
