Scotland Debate

[Adi2Dassler]

What would Scotland be able to do if the UK did say no - they are staying there until we are ready to move them ?

Refuse access of our waters/land?
Take rUK to the UN?
Dismantle them?

But lets be serious here,none of the above will happen,are they?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

I feel the Yes campaign is gaining momentum up here. Things like this helping no end -

Been gaining momentum for six months, as I've been saying.

Yes will win now, it's a cert.

 

[Old Skier]

Should the rest of Europe be worried about the imperial leanings of the Yes supporters on this thread.
They demand that RUK runs their monetary policies in line with an iscot.
They demand entry in the EU.
Is anyone else worried about the massed army of iscot pouring over the wall and taking over RUK.
Do they still paint their faces blue.

 

[Dodger]

Been gaining momentum for six months, as I've been saying.

Yes will win now, it's a cert.

I am with you.Plenty people leaning towards it.My old man really believes when push comes to shove people will not vote 'against their nation'.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Been gaining momentum for six months, as I've been saying.

Yes will win now, it's a cert.

Based on ?

http://whatscotlandthinks.org/questions/should-scotland-be-an-independent-country-1#line

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I feel the Yes campaign is gaining momentum up here. Things like this helping no end -

At first I didn't believe this front page was real - but apparently it is - and the story certainly is

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...dmits-currency-union-ban-was-a-bluff.23823233

 

[Deleted member 15344]

At first I didn't believe this front page was real - but apparently it is - and the story certainly is

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...dmits-currency-union-ban-was-a-bluff.23823233

Its still based on this one minister though isnt it

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Based on ?

http://whatscotlandthinks.org/questions/should-scotland-be-an-independent-country-1#line

John Curtice is quite simply outstanding as a source, and I mean that sincerely, if you're into polling data.

But you have to know Scottish politics and its disregard for polls...have a look at the lastScottish elections as the perfect example. I base my opinion on first hand experience.

As dodger suggest above, when push comes to shove, folk will think, ach, bugger it, i'm voting aye.People will get behind positivity and shy away from negativity, and as Carmichael has confirmed today, No is nothing but -

 

[NWJocko]

At first I didn't believe this front page was real - but apparently it is - and the story certainly is

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...dmits-currency-union-ban-was-a-bluff.23823233

Interesting read. Is the Herald pro Independence out of interest (no leading question intended!)?

It seems that some random has said its possible, hence the strong statement the other day but the SNP have jumped all over it. Good politics, makes it even harder to trust any politician or know who/what to believe when trying to follow this in the media though!!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

John Curtice is quite simply outstanding as a source, and I mean that sincerely, if you're into polling data.

But you have to know Scottish politics and its disregard for polls...have a look at the lastScottish elections as the perfect example. I base my opinion on first hand experience.

As dodger suggest above, when push comes to shove, folk will think, ach, bugger it, i'm voting aye.People will get behind positivity and shy away from negativity, and as Carmichael has confirmed today, No is nothing but -

But nothing is a cert is it though - there is prob a great deal of people who will be voting No.

There is nothing"confirmed" on what will happen after any yes vote - people wont vote for that uncertainty.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Interesting read. Is the Herald pro Independence out of interest (no leading question intended!)?

It seems that some random has said its possible, hence the strong statement the other day but the SNP have jumped all over it. Good politics, makes it even harder to trust any politician or know who/what to believe when trying to follow this in the media though!!

Yes, but Scotland on Sunday & Observer are highly partisan No publications, check out their front pages today.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

But nothing is a cert is it though - there is prob a great deal of people who will be voting No.

There is nothing"confirmed" on what will happen after any yes vote - people wont vote for that uncertainty.

I can't disagree with any of that, but we'll just wait and see.

 

[Dodger]

But nothing is a cert is it though - there is prob a great deal of people who will be voting No.

There is nothing"confirmed" on what will happen after any yes vote - people wont vote for that uncertainty.

Guy at work was saying 'what are the tax rates going to be'.......no different to any election really.

 

[NWJocko]

Yes, but Scotland on Sunday & Observer are highly partisan No publications, check out their front pages today.

Don't have time to read the Sundays anymore and wasnt really related to this, was just interested.

Cheers :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Guy at work was saying 'what are the tax rates going to be'.......no different to any election really.

Guess need to know what currency will be used first before any tax rates.

 

[Old Skier]

, when push comes to shove, folk will think, ach, bugger it, i'm voting aye.-

Another spoilt ballot paper then.

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Don't have time to read the Sundays anymore and wasnt really related to this, was just interested.

Cheers :thup:

For future ref: STV/Herald - Yes generally, BBC/Scotsman-No generally

 

[NWJocko]

For future ref: STV/Herald - Yes generally, BBC/Scotsman-No generally

Interesting re the papers, does that indicate a wider West/East - Yes/No representation?

 

[Adi2Dassler]

Interesting re the papers, does that indicate a wider West/East - Yes/No representation?

Not sure.Because the polling data of decided voters is tight I think it's evenly spread with maybe a touch more Yes in West

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Interesting read. Is the Herald pro Independence out of interest (no leading question intended!)?

It seems that some random has said its possible, hence the strong statement the other day but the SNP have jumped all over it. Good politics, makes it even harder to trust any politician or know who/what to believe when trying to follow this in the media though!!

And the comment piece by Iain Macwhirter also in today's SH makes interesting reading also

http://www.heraldscotland.com/comme...e-tide-of-history-is-moving-their-wa.23824878