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Have you not noticed that Adi2Dassler is just out to get reactions from people. Any other thread I see him pop up on he is trying to wind people up. Do not argue with him, just leave him to his own sad little world.

Of course I try to get reactions out of people, it's a debate,isn't it?And maybe sometimes I do try to wind folk up, but are you telling me I'm alone on this board in doing that?Aye.Right.

Now lets see if you reply, or leave me to my own sad little world.
 

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As thread originator can we settle down please.

There has been some very good debate on this thread and I think both sides have learned a lot from some well informed posters.
I appreciate there is bound to be a bit of 'banter' but can we keep it civil and stay off areas which will only offend.

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As thread originator can we settle down please.

There has been some very good debate on this thread and I think both sides have learned a lot from some well informed posters.
I appreciate there is bound to be a bit of 'banter' but can we keep it civil and stay off areas which will only offend.

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Fair enough it was just such a shame that it was you that stepped over the "just banter" line. Endex on the subject then
 

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Have you not noticed that Adi2Dassler is just out to get reactions from people. Any other thread I see him pop up on he is trying to wind people up. Do not argue with him, just leave him to his own sad little world.

Much as I disagree with Adi's views on independence I find his contributions on the subject to be generally informative and engaging; more so that what our politicians are serving up....

Keep it up :thup:

Misguided though you are! ;)
 

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So there's been accusations of cybernatery on here and other places, some of it accurate,some of it nonsense.

But is there an opposite?Does BT use the internet to spread lies?Well, yes they do, and not only that, MP's use the internet to spread lies.I'm no fan of the wingsoverscotland chavvie, I think he's part of the problem surrounding this whole process, but credit where it's due, this is decent...

http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-smear-wars/
 

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Does this mean that we now have to start publishing links to the Better Together campaign. As you yourself stated above, although you are tending just to blame MPs for this, some is accurate and some is not. I presume that the bits the Yes campaign are accurate (just like your posts)and the rest is damn lies.

Ah well, off to the golf course as the sun is shinning again in the West Country.
 

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Does this mean that we now have to start publishing links to the Better Together campaign. As you yourself stated above, although you are tending just to blame MPs for this, some is accurate and some is not. I presume that the bits the Yes campaign are accurate (just like your posts)and the rest is damn lies.

Ah well, off to the golf course as the sun is shinning again in the West Country.

You don't have to do anything, but I expect if you stick within what the admins deem acceptable you're free to post anything you think is relevant.

enjoy your golf.
 

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Adi20 has contributed a great deal to this debate.
Am I right in recalling that he will not vote Yes.

I'm still fence sitting but my English wife is firmly in the Yes camp.
[Even after a panel member of the Yes campaign said in front of her that 'most Southern English women are stuck up'.

His group has since apologised for this error.
 

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This might be the most sensible, balanced blog I've read on the whole process...
http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/5411

Thank you very much for your comments on my blog.

Actually, it's not my blog, but is absolutely what I would write if it were!

And while I never quite agreed with his views on The House of Lords (who, imo, don't so much govern as moderate the Government), that Tony Benn quote is entirely appropriate to Scotland!

...my English wife is firmly in the Yes camp.
[Even after a panel member of the Yes campaign said in front of her that 'most Southern English women are stuck up'.

His group has since apologised for this error.

I'm not sure they needed to apologise! In his world, he was quite possibly right!:rolleyes:

But "'Most' Scotswomen are scary" might not be all that far wrong either!
 
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This might be the most sensible, balanced blog I've read on the whole process...
http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/5411

I'm not sure I'd say its balanced but I would say that it is the most politically sensible thing I've seen on the subject. There isn't a breath of what's in it for me but there is a whole lot of what's good for my country now and in the future. Crikey! I'd vote yes if the politicians wanted independance based on those thoughts rather than the confrontational back biting and mud slinging.
 

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Good thoughts in that blog. The sign-off...

But if the Unionists can put forward a more positive proposal I’m genuinely open to changing my mind.

...currently seems to present a difficulty for BT. I hope that situation changes soon.
 

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This might be the most sensible, balanced blog I've read on the whole process...
http://www.bigmouthstrikesagain.com/archives/5411

I'm shocked- I cannot believe what I read in this blog- it's utterly utterly disgusting and an anathema to me.


How on Earth anyone can post that kind of mental imagary and expect me to take them seriously is beyond me- The Krankies are swingers...........I think a wee bit of sick just came up.





/I'll read the rest once I've had a wee lie down
 

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Good read but the blogger proved his own point. The Yes campaigners are all about we don't like England without any consideration for RUK. Arguments should be based on how things will be better/worse based on the UK as a whole and not all about what happens over a 5 year period in Westminster. With over half the population not involving themselves in voting it's not surprising we get the politicians we have.
 

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Good read but the blogger proved his own point. The Yes campaigners are all about we don't like England without any consideration for RUK. Arguments should be based on how things will be better/worse based on the UK as a whole and not all about what happens over a 5 year period in Westminster. With over half the population not involving themselves in voting it's not surprising we get the politicians we have.

We certainly are not

Not for everyone

do you mean on a Uk level or the referendum?I think the % of voters casting their votes will break records
 

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Unfortunately that is the impression you are giving

Scotland should vote on if they are better off leaving UK - not based on leaving England

I meant the apathy of voting in the whole of the UK.

you've cannae base your impression on the entire Yes campaign on my ramblings on a golf internet forum,surely?!

and Scotland shouldn't vote on whether we're better off or not in or out of the union,Scotland should vote on whether it wants to be an independent country taking responsibility for itself, both nationally and internationally,whether we're prepared to make choices and stand by them and be accountable to the electorate and our fellow countries.
 
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