Scotland Debate

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Exactly, and many more living outside Scotland. Will SILH require a visa to remain in England?

I will have joint citizenship

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not if in the handover from Westminster to Scotland Westminster agrees that all employees can as it were be TUPE'd - so as employees they move from working for the UK to working for Scotland - but still delivering the same 'service' to the UK as they were doing. Besides - am I a citizen under the Crown or Westminster? If the former then nothing changes - perhaps.

What if the job they are doing has nothing to do with Scotland ? And the job is still needed to be done for the UK.

Will the Scottish government start to do jobs previously done by British Government ? I wouldn't expect so and would expect the British Government to carry on doin the same job.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I will have joint citizenship

Will you ?

Nothing is certain or set stone surely ?

Will the English people living and working in Scotland be offered joint citizenship ?

 

[stevie_r]

I will have joint citizenship

You've decided that have you?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The question is do they want Scotland to be Independant ? Because they don't get a chance to vote I believe.

I believe that you are correct in that

Do I want Scotland to be independant? In some ways yes - in some ways no. But I can't say how I'd vote because I do not live in Scotland. Living outside of Scotland I have a perspective on Scotland that is 'once removed', and as things would look and feel different were I 'inside the box' I therefore honestly cannot say what I would vote.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You've decided that have you?

Well I live in England so I would have rUK citizenship (because they can't take that away from me) and the Scottish government would grant me Scottish citizenship as I was born in Scotland. So no I haven't decided that - as that is what would happen.

Unless you think I would have my rUK citizenship withdrawn?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well I live in England so I would have rUK citizenship (because they can't take that away from me) and the Scottish government would grant me Scottish citizenship as I was born in Scotland. So no I haven't decided that - as that is what would happen.

Why can't they take away British citizenship ?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Why can't they take away British citizenship ?

Who is going to take it away and why?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Who is going to take it away and why?

Well the British Government could take it away if you decide to take up Scottish Citzenship

Again you or I or anyone can't say for certain what will or won't happen - hence why you don't know if you will have dual Citzenship offered

 

[stevie_r]

Well the British Government could take it away if you decide to take up Scottish Citzenship

Again you or I or anyone can't say for certain what will or won't happen - hence why you don't know if you will have dual Citzenship offered

Bingo

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Well the British Government could take it away if you decide to take up Scottish Citzenship

Again you or I or anyone can't say for certain what will or won't happen - hence why you don't know if you will have dual Citzenship offered

In which case I would like BT to let the Scottish electorate know the citizenship status of their relatives living in England following a YES. Because although I don;t get a vote this would affect the likes of me and what affects me might sway the vote of say my mother. Besides - does the UK withdraw citizenship from someone who gets US or Australian citizenship?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

In which case I would like BT to let the Scottish electorate know the citizenship status of their relatives living in England following a YES. Because although I don;t get a vote this would affect the likes of me and what affects me might sway the vote of say my mother. Besides - does the UK withdraw citizenship from someone who gets US or Australian citizenship?

I don't know - and BT ( whoever they are ) I'm sure don't need to say anything about Citzenship - it's not them that wants the change.

 

[Old Skier]

Certain Commonwealth countries have alliances ( if that's the right word ) that allow them to join the military dating back centuries I believe. But I'm not sure if they need a British Passport or not

They do not and apart from the Gurkhas who in some instances have been made a special case they are not guaranteed permission to settle in the UK after completion of service.

I know what with baited breath for the Yes people to tell me I'm wrong as this reply may not suit them.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Well my English wife and two English daughters living in Scotland are more than happy to give up there UK citizenship to become Scottish.

 

[Old Skier]

Well my English wife and two English daughters living in Scotland are more than happy to give up there UK citizenship to become Scottish.

Two more candidates off the pensions payroll in the future.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Two more candidates off the pensions payroll in the future.

Please explain.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Please explain.

I'm guessing by giving up their UK citizenship that would be mean they would give up their state pension and then look to get one from Scottish State Pensions.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

And.......

 

[Deleted member 15344]

And.......

That would mean they would no longer be on the UK pension payroll. Thought it was quite self explanatory.

 

[Old Skier]

Please explain.

I would have thought that RUK will only be liable for OAP credits up to the time that independence is achieved. Now if an iscotland is still going to run a OAP pensions scheme (not seen any mention so maybe they arnt)' I presume that contributions up till then will go into that scheme. If there isn't going to be an OAP pension provision maybe we just keep those contributions but as the Yes party hav'nt come up with any detail on how anything will work, I, nor you can answer that one.