Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Yip, and it's not because of no currency union.
Scotland Debate
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Yip, and it's not because of no currency union.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
Go read that contradiction again. How can it be nothing to so with Scotland if it's Scotland that's affecting it?
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
They may well have called it right. Noone will know until the vote.
Just had a thought. For you Scots, would it not have been better, when it was announced to have a referendum a week later, with the question "do you want scotland to remain in the union, as of 1 January 2016?". That would have resulted in none of the political nonsense and debating, and made it about the root of the question.
would that have worked, or am I talkin nonsense?
Alan
Assistant Pro
So would I. It's not going to be easy, but it's going to happen, I've been canvassing in my local area and the Yes vote is well over 60%, the polls for the current government are bollox.
Old Skier
Tour Winner
These are people saying they will vote Yes or people who have voted and you know have been and voted Yes.
Junior
Tour Winner
I've been following the debate but I dont profess to be clever enough to understand the currency or defense implications in their entirety.....however. I'm happy for our Scottish brothers and sisters to be happy.
But I think that Scotland then has to appreciate that, if the link is severed, we (England, Wales and Northern Ireland) also have the same liberty to pick and choose what we do and dont do for Scotland. As members of the union we have duties to one and other. Not so much as neighbouring countries.
Imo, two are stronger than one, three stronger than two and four stronger than three. I'd encourage the Scots to consider the bad times and the good , and make their decision - which they will.
I'm 100% behind what they decide.
But I think that Scotland then has to appreciate that, if the link is severed, we (England, Wales and Northern Ireland) also have the same liberty to pick and choose what we do and dont do for Scotland. As members of the union we have duties to one and other. Not so much as neighbouring countries.
Imo, two are stronger than one, three stronger than two and four stronger than three. I'd encourage the Scots to consider the bad times and the good , and make their decision - which they will.
I'm 100% behind what they decide.
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SAPCOR1
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SAPCOR1
Journeyman Pro
A hike in taxes! No thanks
SAPCOR1
Journeyman Pro
Lives in Chicago and before that Dublin, that nails it right enough.....
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Foxholer
Blackballed
Not surprising as they have more to lose , but the people on the bread line have nothing to lose and there seems to be more of them, I'm afraid.
And they are probably some of the few that voted Conservative too.
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
What is the unemployment figure for Scotland? Will they be supported by the income tax payers? Has the EC guaranteed entry ? What sustainable industries has Scotland got?
I think I would ask these questions myself plus I would want to know if my employee had plans regarding the vote ... Sadly the situation seems to be bitter either way Scotland has lost
I think I would ask these questions myself plus I would want to know if my employee had plans regarding the vote ... Sadly the situation seems to be bitter either way Scotland has lost
SAPCOR1
Journeyman Pro
What's it got to do with an employer how his/her employee votes?
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
Nothing you would think ... But then reality is another thing altogether. Think about it, would the company stay if it would lose money ? So would you vote to effectively loose your job? It's worst case scenario but I would not dismiss it out of hand, I would definitely think about the consequences of my vote with regards my future ...
Fyldewhite
Tour Winner
I agree. Not commented on any of this yet but an increasingly disenfranchised society over many years has lead to a fundamental split being on the cards. No idea how it would work, what the cost would be but to put changes like this on a simple majority vote is madness. It should be a 2/3 vote needed otherwise the losing side will always claim dirty tactics and technicalities were the reason and that lack of acceptance will cause problems for a generation at least.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
George Cunningham managed to get that through for the 1979 referendum - when 40% of the total electorate had to vote YES - and so non-voters and deceased still on the electoral roll were deemed to be NO voters. Your suggestion is valid but would have been still-born for this referendum. The mistake was not having Devo-max on the ballot paper and for that we can all thank David Cameron.
And with Gordon Brown's initiative. Well as a number of commentators have said this evening the big problem BT may not have over this is credibility. This announcement has alsways been planned; it is not a panic reaction; the new powers have been thought through; the West lothian question has been resolved. Aye right. BT seem to have over-stoked the currency fire and many undecided Scots have just got used to that heat and are now essentially ignoring it. The 'new powers' initiative may do the trick for BT but they have to be believed and trusted.
SAPCOR1
Journeyman Pro
None of the employer's business and any pressure that may be exerted would be unfair.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Scottish unemployment is slightly higher than England.
Tax returns in Scotland are higher than England.
According to my passport I am a member of the EC, do you think they will just cancel out 5 million members.
What does the way my employer votes have to do with it ?
Situation is not bitter, quite civilised really.
One Planer
Global Moderator
Your passport says you are a member of the EC because the UK meets the criteria for membership.
Does a new independent country that hasn't, as yet, got a Scooby what it's currency will be meet the current criteria for EU membership?
