SwingsitlikeHogan
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Well it might if much of your national identity is built up around the loss or want of something, that when given the chance to grab hold of you reject - possibly for ever.
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Well it might if much of your national identity is built up around the loss or want of something, that when given the chance to grab hold of you reject - possibly for ever.
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Your national identity is built upon your ancestry and history not the result of a vote
Of anyone's national Identity is built upon the forthcoming referendum then would suggest they don't feel very strongly about their country
When a a yes or no vote happens - the people will still be Scottish that won't change
Old Skier
Tour Winner
Funny how most of the 373 pages from the Yes side (and the I want to be on the yes side but I want my cake and eat it and live in England side) is all based around the fact that those nasty Tory boys are in power. Well their in power because of the democratic way we select the dumb rulers of a country.
You seemed more than happy when it was Labour in power.
You seemed more than happy when it was Labour in power.
DCB
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There was me thinking it was a coalition government, just think what it would have been like if big Gordon hadn't thrown wee Nick out of no10 when Gordon was trying to save his backside after the last election.
DCB
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Interesting the huge numbers of people who are suddenly coming out of the woodwork to register to vote. Hope all the appropriate authorities will be checking the newly udated electoral roll for any interesting information that will suddenly be available. I certainly know people who used to be able to "hide" as they weren't registered to vote 
FairwayDodger
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When this thread started I was one of several posters who commented that we didn't know anyone, or only a handful of people, who were voting "yes". I know that, at that time, I considered the prospect of a "yes" vote to be remote.
I admit that things have changed. I know a fair few "yes" voters now, as well as a fair few "nos". And yet, most of my friends, family and colleagues I don't know how they plan to vote.
The "yes" supporters are far more visible than the "nos". Signs in windows, in cars, badges etc and are much more vocal in speaking up and arguing their case (often talking total pish but passionately so).
"No" supporters are far more circumspect, almost embarrassed to be voting "against Scotland" or against the populist, utopian (head-in-the-sand?) independence campaign.
The upshot is that I'm no longer certain we'll get a "no" vote. I think there is a real chance it'll be "yes". I hope that the majority of my contacts whose views I don't know are either undecided or "slightly embarassed nos" but that is only a guess....
I admit that things have changed. I know a fair few "yes" voters now, as well as a fair few "nos". And yet, most of my friends, family and colleagues I don't know how they plan to vote.
The "yes" supporters are far more visible than the "nos". Signs in windows, in cars, badges etc and are much more vocal in speaking up and arguing their case (often talking total pish but passionately so).
"No" supporters are far more circumspect, almost embarrassed to be voting "against Scotland" or against the populist, utopian (head-in-the-sand?) independence campaign.
The upshot is that I'm no longer certain we'll get a "no" vote. I think there is a real chance it'll be "yes". I hope that the majority of my contacts whose views I don't know are either undecided or "slightly embarassed nos" but that is only a guess....
DCB
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FD put a No poster in your parked car and you may well find some extra ventilation there she you return to it.
SocketRocket
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I once left a signed picture of Tony Blair in the back of my car. When I returned the window was smashed and there were two pictures on the seat!
FairwayDodger
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True, there is also a certain fear factor of reprisals from some of the less well-evolved "yes" supporters. That probably cuts both ways, however.
Old Skier
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It is but it appears on here to be all about the Tory's and the English. Some posters seem to forget the vote will effect the whole of the UK.
Its getting to sound a bit like, "we can't have our own way so were taking our ball away".
By the way SLH, the NE did have the chance to vote for a unitary local authority and I believe they rejected the idea..
Foxholer
Blackballed
Quite possibly because that's much more in line with (if not the same as) the way the Scots feel!
Has no bearing on whether they believe they should be independent or not though!
I have not read this thread for a while but just wanted to say Adi's posts are a joy to read.:thup:
Doon frae Troon
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I made my mind up last week to vote YES.
I went to a Jim Sillars Yes Meeting in my local town hall tonight and he convinced me I have made the right choice.
Clever man and a wonderful speaker.
The hall was packed with supporters of all shapes, sizes and ages. We even had a local 'Braveheart' who had been a member of the SNP for 60 years. He gave a very loud and passionate shout with no context whatsoever, but was good fun to watch!
Sillars [naturally] thinks Yes will win with a much bigger vote than people would have imagined.
He said that the No's as well as the Don't knows were changing to Yes in large numbers.
He also thinks that England are in for some really tough times financially and politically and Scotland will be well off out of it.
Also found out about the UK governments plans for compulsory conscription [see other thread]
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It appears he didn't do his research very well
Interesting how he know how people will vote - is this because of those polls again which are not to believed ( mainly when it shows the No is winning )
Beezerk
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Wow, and the No campaign are getting slated for scaremongering!
What worries me is some will actually believe this codswallop.
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you were a yes man a long before that.
As for that utter drivel about conscription, was that from Jim Sillars yes meeting as well? thought so, unbelievable
Doon frae Troon
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[1] It was not from him Phil, he poo poo the idea.
Came from a couple of guys from the floor. Who were right/but wrong.
[2] He is a very seasoned politician, not normally given to making rash statements.
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Well it appears he is making a lot right now - any proof to back his suggestion about England ( why just England I'm not sure ) will suffer financially but Scotland will flourish ?!
Doon frae Troon
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Where did I say Scotland will flourish?
England have a large negative balance of payments, that and payback of the debt caused by the banking crash need to be addressed.
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Sorry misread your post
And why is it just England with a negative balance ? Is it not the UK ?
