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Adi2Dassler

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I thought we were doing mulligans on polls as we all agree they show nothing. The bits I saw they were both bad but your man was a little bit badder.

We are, but when what the media reports is directly opposite to the actual facts contained within the poll they refer to, I'll flag it up.
 

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The Petrofac training challenge trophy game on ALBA?I thought we played some decent football, maybe lacked a cutting edge but were the better team until the 12th man stepped into help out our hosts. Alot more confident about the season ahead now.

Another new last night, a star of david/red hand of ulster combo flag, I think we were all pretty impressed.

It was painful viewing for a Rangers fan, shaded the first half but could only see one winner after Hibs equalised. I have a foot in both camps (ok, maybe a toe in one) with HID being a hibbee I thought Hibs looked much better than last year. Never should have been a red card (bad challenge but only worth a yellow) but given the decisions that also went against Rangers I think we can put it down to bad refereeing rather than any conspiracy..... you can agree to disagree with that if you like! :)
 

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It was painful viewing for a Rangers fan, shaded the first half but could only see one winner after Hibs equalised. I have a foot in both camps (ok, maybe a toe in one) with HID being a hibbee I thought Hibs looked much better than last year. Never should have been a red card (bad challenge but only worth a yellow) but given the decisions that also went against Rangers I think we can put it down to bad refereeing rather than any conspiracy..... you can agree to disagree with that if you like! :)

I thought we got lucky with penalty claim, reckon Forster hauled down Boyd, so aye, prob poor refereeing overall.Rangers this season are gonna be very predictable...Black in midfield bullying, Boyd holding the ball up and Miller running onto knock ons.
 

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Alex 0 Darling 1



Liked a newspaper headline that "Alex takes a Pounding" ;)




Can't believe Salmond brought up Driving on the left if we vote yes and a serious threat from Aliens:eek: Darling countered these nonsense attacks very well and tried to bring it back to serious debate.
 
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I thought we got lucky with penalty claim, reckon Forster hauled down Boyd, so aye, prob poor refereeing overall.Rangers this season are gonna be very predictable...Black in midfield bullying, Boyd holding the ball up and Miller running onto knock ons.

I fear you might be right. There's a bit more to them than that with the likes of Wallace, Macleod and Templeton but they didn't seem to have much structure or composure to their play last night. They're not great, that's for sure. Early days, of course, but there seems much more to get excited about with a young Hibs team trying to play possession football.
 

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I sat through the whole 2hours. Neither man shed any new light on any of the important question nor cast significant new doubts over the others arguments. The whole tone was depressingly adversarial (politics as usual) which was disappointing to say the least. The STV format , of taking a breaks not only for the ads but to ask the talking heads in the studio what we should be thinking about what we just heard was irritating and patronising.

Neither of them 'lost', neither looked very statesman-like, both were petty and childish at times.

What was lost was a chance to compare and contrast their two visions for our future - shame as that might have been interesting.

Can you tell I wasn't impressed?
 

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Salmond missed a trick last night IMO, he had a chance to put Darling under the cosh and he failed miserably IMO. When he had the chance to ask questions he laboured on too many leading questions like, do you agree Scotland could prosper as an independent country and then failed to let Darling answer properly, politicians dont answer yes or no so did he expect to get a yes or no. Darling went straight for the kill, "what is your plan B on currency?" His answer was as always, "we'll get plan A." Shocking, even the audience got annoyed at his failure to answer, he would get more kudos by admitting we don't have a plan B as we are sure through negotiation that a currency union will work and can prosper.

The YES campaign have criticised the NO camp for negativity, I saw no positivity from Salmond last night either and all he done was through negative spin on the YES campaign, oh the irony.

I don't think either came out well however Salmond wouldn't have won over any undecided voters on last nights performance
 

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me too, going on what I've read this morning.

I watched it with a very open mind last night and fully expected Salmond to wipe the floor with Darling but it was far from the case, he laboured so many meaningless points like driving on the right and being attacked by aliens.

FFS man it's 6 weeks till the vote and you are behind on the polls, pull your finger out.
 
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So it's 6 weeks until the most important day of all - you have a chance to really jump on the countries national pride after Glasgow , you have the chance to really push on and show everyone the facts and prove everything isn't just empty promises

And he failed - it was childish at times , nothing of any substance from Salmond to actually show how Scotland will be better off on their own ! It appears the biggest opponent to independence is Salmond himself - nothing to back up more empty promises - why on earth would the Scottish public vote for anything with him as the leader.
 
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Because it's significantly bigger than one man, you silly sausage.


I reckon you might need to tell him that :thup:

Again there was no factual evidence to back up his claims

He should sell his white paper to Someone to print as a fantasy story
 
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