Same, but different.

[haplesshacker]

I understand that cf can benefit golfers, particularly with shaft selection, but it does depend on what swing you bring on the day.

I also know that many on here that have gone for cf have done so with the mind that they are changing their bats.

However in these rather tight times, is there much benefit in having a cf session with your existing bats? I know that some makers will tinker with existing clubs, but if you're happy-ish with your current set up, would getting the lie, and grip size sorted be a good idea. Or would it just sow the seed of doubt in your mind that what you currently have might not be right for you? Despite being happy with the current line up now.

I think I already know the answer, but I thought that it would make an interesting topic.

On the matter of buying new bats. It would appear that some don't even take their existing bats to a cf session (or even a demo day or when buying off the shelf). Why? I would have thought that you would need a bench mark to compare other clubs to.

 

[StrangelyBrown]

I bought my clubs off the shelf then had the lies adjusted about a year ago (1* upright if you're interested). Can't say i've noticed a massive difference but then I've never been for a full CF session so I don't know what difference that would make either.

 

[Imurg]

Get what you're saying Hapless and mostly I'm with you.
I've posted this before but I'll do it agian as its a valid point.
Those with forged clubs who play on hard ground should get their lofts and lies checked at the end of Winter. Constantly banging clubs down on hard ground can bend the softer metal and throw the lies out. And if 1 degree didn't make a difference they wouldn't bother would they...

 

[StrangelyBrown]

And if 1 degree didn't make a difference they wouldn't bother would they...

Fair point, well made

 

[SimonS]

I know what you're thinking!

Like you, I have been using MX-300's but my swing has changed over the year. I recently went to Mizuno in Glasgow for a fitting and I have changed from Nippon 950 to KBS shafts.

I was given the option of having the mx-300's re shafted but I went for the MP-53's as the difference in cost was less than the price that I can get for the 300's.

 

[viscount17]

you've given me an idea. I have a package of lessons paid for with two to come post xmas. I think I'll ask if he will cf my clubs (they're forged) as one of the lessons.
I'm looking to kill two birds in one, check lofts/lies and settle the nagging doubt about my shafts being too soft.

 

[percy_layer]

Good post

I've used forged irons for years and need to correct the loft and lie about twice a year, the wedges in particular get knocked off the most. I've never looked into why this happens but they always become more upright overtime over time.

 

[JustOne]

Makes perfect sense if you have a decent set of clubs to start with. Once you have a good set you could just go and get your swing/lofts/lies checked every year or two in case that change to Stack and Tilt made you a bit more upright

 

[richart]

Presumably Mike Weir had to have his changed the other way ?

 

[RGDave]

I've had two sets of C/F clubs, neither has been new. Both were new to me (as in I bought them).
The first set I was offered for them to be fitted for me, they needed new grips anyway. Mizuno T-zoid - never got on with them.

The second set I bought were double checked by a local club fitter. It cost me about £30, but I feel it was worth it. Mizuno MX-900s, nice clubs but not overly forgiving i.m.o.

My Callaway X-18s were 2nd hand off the shelf, standard in every respect. They are shorter and a little more upright than my Mizunos, but I do OK with them.

I guess if you like your clubs and are keen to have them fitted, it's cheaper than buying new. If you are after new shiny bats anyway....

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I guess the biggest problem comes if you buy a cast set (most TM's, Cally etc) which are notoriously difficult to adjust loft and lie on. Not impossible but difficult. I know Ping offer to do it regardless on their models but I'm presuming they are stronger than say Burners or you have to send them back to Ping HQ to have it done properly

 

[kid2]

Even though i was custom fit for my new Pings im still a little sceptical about the whole thing....
When you see pings charts most average golfers will fit in between Black or red Dots.....
Im 5'11" in shoes and im my own opinion most off the rack stuff would probably be fine for me....
Having said that i was fit for my pings being Red dots with Gold grips....
Im not sure would 3/4 of a degree flatter lie will have a exceptionally positive effect on my game but im sure it will contribute something or other...
Also as i work with my hands in my day job with hammers and lots of fairly thick handled tools the fitter recommended that i get the slightly thicker grips which seemed to have the effect of softening my hands through the swing and didnt have me squeezing the grip....

This was something that i wasnt even aware would have an impact on ball flight....


The one other question i would ask is in these times of stronger lofts and the like what what would you define as an Off the shelf set?
My cobra's were bought off the shelf and if you compare them to ping Black dots (standard) the shafts are a 1/2" longer in the cobra's which in turn also have lie angles that are 3/4 of a degree more upright.....

So who's fooling who i wonder?