Down_The_Middle
Head Pro
Whats the ruling if your ball is plugged in the rough.It happened to me today in our medal. None of us in the group were sure what to do so I played it as I found it
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SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
Play as it lies unless there is a temporary local rule in place that allows for relief from said situation....
Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
Technically, I think, its too bad unless your Committee has ruled that you can lift,clean and place due to abnormal ground conditions - ie wet!
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
In any closely mown area through the green you can pick, clean and dropped no nearer the hole as close as possible to where the ball lay (rule 25-2). If it is plugged in the rough it has to be played as it lies unless provision made under local rules
rgs
Tour Rookie
Surprised you are not playing under winter rules at this time of the year.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Even under winter rules it is only closely mown areas that a plugged ball can be lifted unless a local rule enforces it on all areas of the course.
bobmac
Major Champion
As a general rule that alot of clubs adopt is
If the ball is plugged in the fairway, it can be lifted cleaned and PLACED under winter rules.
If plugged in the rough it can be lifted cleaned and DROPPED, not nearer the hole of course
If the ball is plugged in the fairway, it can be lifted cleaned and PLACED under winter rules.
If plugged in the rough it can be lifted cleaned and DROPPED, not nearer the hole of course
TonyN
Money List Winner
Almost all Golf clubs I have played at have preffered lies 'through the green' Doesn't mention anything about fairway, firts cut, rough etc.
I would play it as bobmac said, fairway: lift, clean, place.
Rough: lift and drop.
The way I see it, winter rules designed to keep the game as enjoyable as it is in summer. If you hit the fairway, you should be rewarded with a nice clean ball/lie. If you in the rough its a tough shot so no clean ball/lie. But you cant be expected to play a ball you cant even see.
I would play it as bobmac said, fairway: lift, clean, place.
Rough: lift and drop.
The way I see it, winter rules designed to keep the game as enjoyable as it is in summer. If you hit the fairway, you should be rewarded with a nice clean ball/lie. If you in the rough its a tough shot so no clean ball/lie. But you cant be expected to play a ball you cant even see.
Cernunnos
Journeyman Pro
Not tomention, if the ball is plugging, its classed as abnormal conditions.
USER1999
Grand Slam Winner
It can only be classed as abnormal conditions if there is a notice to say so before you go out.
Winter rules = lift clean and place within 6" not nearer the hole, through the green (which means close cut grass, fairways, aprons and greens, not rough, or oddly, tee areas).
Plugged in the rough? Unless there is a notice regarding abnormal conditions, or provision within your winter rules as a local rule, it is tough luck. Play it as it lies, or take a penalty.
Winter rules = lift clean and place within 6" not nearer the hole, through the green (which means close cut grass, fairways, aprons and greens, not rough, or oddly, tee areas).
Plugged in the rough? Unless there is a notice regarding abnormal conditions, or provision within your winter rules as a local rule, it is tough luck. Play it as it lies, or take a penalty.
SammmeBee
Journeyman Pro
Through the green is as mog said but it is the teeing grounds on the hole you are playing that is not considered through the green - all other tees are....
The only allowance under the rules are for a temporary local rule of preferred lies of the 6 inch variety on closely mown areas throught the green and also embedded (plugged) ball through the green but the committee must establish a temporary local rule...any other made up drop/place in the rough etc then any competition should not count for handicapping purposes....
The only allowance under the rules are for a temporary local rule of preferred lies of the 6 inch variety on closely mown areas throught the green and also embedded (plugged) ball through the green but the committee must establish a temporary local rule...any other made up drop/place in the rough etc then any competition should not count for handicapping purposes....
Mickyhughes
Newbie
Re: Qualifying competitions for handicap
Is any other club playing qualifying competitions at the moment?
My handicap is going up point 1 with every round as it's impossible to get a decent score on frozen tees, greens, rubbishy greens etc. Our Comp Sec says all individual comps have to be qualifiers as per CONGU. Seems daft to me.
Cheers
Micky
Is any other club playing qualifying competitions at the moment?
My handicap is going up point 1 with every round as it's impossible to get a decent score on frozen tees, greens, rubbishy greens etc. Our Comp Sec says all individual comps have to be qualifiers as per CONGU. Seems daft to me.
Cheers
Micky
viscount17
Money List Winner
Re: Qualifying competitions for handicap
tbh, I don't know - the last two comps were cancelled due to snow and/or flood
next week - I hope
tbh, I don't know - the last two comps were cancelled due to snow and/or flood
next week - I hope
EchtLoon
Challenge Tour Pro
Re: Qualifying competitions for handicap
Long story short, as long as it is played over a full measured course then it will count.
Thing is if you are going up, then there is a CSS being returned, if the course/conditions were that bad, it would end up as a non-counting competition on players scores.
Technically the answer is here http://www.englishgolfunion.org/showpage.asp?code=0001000200090006Is any other club playing qualifying competitions at the moment?
My handicap is going up point 1 with every round as it's impossible to get a decent score on frozen tees, greens, rubbishy greens etc. Our Comp Sec says all individual comps have to be qualifiers as per CONGU. Seems daft to me.
Cheers
Micky
Long story short, as long as it is played over a full measured course then it will count.
Thing is if you are going up, then there is a CSS being returned, if the course/conditions were that bad, it would end up as a non-counting competition on players scores.
