Rory - hmmmmmmm!

[Jacko_G]

Not sure I follow his logic!

https://www.bunkered.co.uk/golf-news/rory-mcilroy-sick-of-easy-european-tour-courses

So the courses are too easy yet he finishes T30 in his example and is moaning the set up is wrong? Hate to see a hard course then.

My opinion of both tours is quite simple, the depth on the US Tour is superior, the purses are superior but by Christ the golf on offer is boring, it's a smash, chip and best putter competition 9 tournaments out of 10.

The European Tour is a bit more varied in terms of course layout, climate changes and competition.

Either way I still find his logic bizarre.

 

[User20204]

The Dunhill is a bit of a mickey mouse tournament to be fair, forward tees and 64s being regular scores by average tour players.

 

[apj0524]

But surely a winning score of 22 under winning score and a top ten of of 18 under suggests his underlying statement that the courses are set up too easy for today's Pros and I agree the Tour needs to re-think this.

 

[USER1999]

Given his length off the tee, he should be ripping it up. That he is not, hmm. His problem, not the tours.

 

[Pin-seeker]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1178376211254386689

https://twitter.com/x/status/1178382288985448449

 

[NWJocko]

But surely a winning score of 22 under winning score and a top ten of of 18 under suggests his underlying statement that the courses are set up too easy for today's Pros and I agree the Tour needs to re-think this.

I don't watch every week in fairness but my assumption is that this isn't "typical" scoring for a European Tour event? I could be wrong?

Whether he has a point or not in the wider scheme of things, it's an odd tournament to use to highlight it as it's a massive outlier...... Soft links courses set up short and easy for the celebrity knobheads that are playing so it doesn't take 7 hours to get round.

The Dunhill Links, to me, is a nonsense of a tournament anyway it's current format.

 

[TheDiablo]

The problem with easy set ups is that it turns the week into a putting contest. They're all much of a muchness putting wise over a season so it just comes down to who is hot that week. Absolutely no reward for ball striking or shot making.

He's absolutely bang on. You shouldn't have 40 odd players shooting in the teens under par.

 

[TheDiablo]

I don't watch every week in fairness but my assumption is that this isn't "typical" scoring for a European Tour event? I could be wrong?

Whether he has a point or not in the wider scheme of things, it's an odd tournament to use to highlight it as it's a massive outlier...... Soft links courses set up short and easy for the celebrity knobheads that are playing so it doesn't take 7 hours to get round.

The Dunhill Links, to me, is a nonsense of a tournament anyway it's current format.

He came outside the top 30 with a similar score in the Scottish - a flagship European tour 'Rolex' event

 

[Hobbit]

I want to see birdies and eagles winning comps, not bogies and lost balls. Its the same for everyone, so whats the problem?

 

[NWJocko]

He came outside the top 30 with a similar score in the Scottish - a flagship European tour 'Rolex' event

I did watch a bit of that out of interest to see the course and it didn't look as good as I expected and did seem pretty easy. Fairly sure it was soft then aswell though from memory? Soft links courses in benign conditions are only ever going to end up with very, very low scoring.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Do the ams not play from different tees to the pros?

Certainly saw Gerry McIlroy play more than one tee shot from a forward tee.

 

[USER1999]

I want to see birdies and eagles winning comps, not bogies and lost balls. Its the same for everyone, so whats the problem?

He is a bit crap?

 

[Pin-seeker]

I want to see birdies and eagles winning comps, not bogies and lost balls. Its the same for everyone, so whats the problem?

Yep surely if it’s so easy he just blitzes the field 🤷‍♂️

 

[MendieGK]

I think his point is, he is long and accurate. You don’t need both of these to compete in these events

 

[TheDiablo]

I did watch a bit of that out of interest to see the course and it didn't look as good as I expected and did seem pretty easy. Fairly sure it was soft then aswell though from memory? Soft links courses in benign conditions are only ever going to end up with very, very low scoring.

I can't remember the specifics of it but it's not Links I don't think

PGA Tour play in soft benign conditions every week with far more depth in the field yet the scores are never THAT low and yet some of their courses often appear pitch and putt

 

[USER1999]

If you win, then you have a position to complain from. If you are 15 to 20th, you really need to play better. Then you can whinge from a position of strength. He is an idiot. Every time he opens his mouth, he reinforces this. Not a fan, and becoming less so.

 

[USER1999]

I can't remember the specifics of it but it's not Links I don't think

PGA Tour play in soft benign conditions every week with far more depth in the field yet the scores are never THAT low and yet some of their courses often appear pitch and putt

Yes they are. 22 under is not unusual.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Do the ams not play from different tees to the pros?

Certainly saw Gerry McIlroy play more than one tee shot from a forward tee.

Yes they do

 

[TheDiablo]

I want to see birdies and eagles winning comps, not bogies and lost balls. Its the same for everyone, so whats the problem?

I want to see the best all round golfer win in a given week, not necessarily the best putter in a particular week.

Easy conditions and set up means easier recovery and easier scrambling - eliminating gains made by those performing relatively better off the tee and in approach to the field, and swaying it massively to those gaining the most strokes on the green. Might aswell just play putt putt.

That's the problem.

 

[TheDiablo]

Yes they are. 22 under is not unusual.

But -15 under for 35th place is unheard of. That's the point.