Pin-seeker
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Big achievement & will probably go on to be England's top all time scorer.
Just ad a few quid on him to open the scoring tonight.
Just ad a few quid on him to open the scoring tonight.
Rooney 100caps
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chrisd
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A great achievement but, for me, never quite got as good as he should in an England shirt
Pin-seeker
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He's not alone there mate.
pbrown7582
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Rooney 1st goal at 9/2 :whoo:
evahakool
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Yes that's a great achievement and I'm sure he will be England's top all time scorer ,but he alongside Bobby Charlton will never be able IMO to be classed as the best all time England goal scorer,that honour goes to Jimmy Greaves with 44 goals in 57 games.
Pin-seeker
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Yes can't disagree with you on that.
The goals per game ratio isn't even comparable.
anyone who has at least 100 caps for their national side is Great in my book
Jack_bfc
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Stan Mortenson 23 goals in 25 games including 3 hatricks!!!
And the first ever england goal in a World Cup qualifying and World Cup finals!!!
evahakool
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Well that must be the best goal to games ratio of any England player, wonder why he only played 25 games .
evahakool
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Jimmy Greaves 13 goals in 12 games for England under 23s
Also scored the most hat tricks for England with 6 .
Tashyboy
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Over rated in a time when over the last ten years we have had rubbish England strikers.
evahakool
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To score 44 goals in 100 appearances is pretty good IMO. Whilst he has had some very poor performances for England his record is not that bad, it also must be remembered most of his England career he has played in some very poor sides.
Fromtherough
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Francis Jeffers and David Nugent have a goal to game ratio of 1.0. In fairness they both only have one cap each though.
Think how many games he has dominated for England? Think how many big games he has scored in or made a difference? The top players shine when it matters and Rooney has not done that for England. Think of the top European players of the same era , Klose, Schweinsteiger, Robben, Xavi, Ineista, Pirlo et al. I can think of many games, qualifying or in tournaments, where they have run games or scored the key goals that won matches. Rooney has not done any of that, came closest in 2004 but never repeated. He is a good player but not a great and would not have reached half that figure had he been German, Italian, Spanish, Dutch etc. In terms of goals scored there are now too many soft teams to play in qualifying to compare his numbers against Charlton, Greaves, Lineker etc.
Tongo
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Over rated for me.
100 caps doesn't make him a great player, just one of the best / favoured of a mediocre bunch.
100 caps doesn't make him a great player, just one of the best / favoured of a mediocre bunch.
Hacker Khan
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What he said. Quality when it matters rather than quantity for me, all day long.
What he said. Quality when it matters rather than quantity for me, all day long.
Decent post and not too much you can argue about. Seems to be far more games too and so many more opportunities for players to get to 100 caps and for the likes of Rooney to break records without being in the same category as Charlton, Greaves or Lineker who were out and out goal scorers. Looking back on the majority of Charlton goals and many were real stunners and much better in the air than perhaps any other England player before or since
evahakool
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Charlton did score some fantastic goals but not to many were headed goals, don't think he was regarded as a great header of the ball and there has been many more better in the air than him.
Saw a montage recently and he seemed to get a few with the old noggin. Maybe they just showed them all
