Robert the Bruce, Born in .........

[Doon frae Troon]

Whilst we are in the changing history mode.

According to last nights TV the archers at Agincourt were not English. They were British.
Another myth bust.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Whilst we are in the changing history mode.

According to last nights TV the archers at Agincourt were not English. They were British.
Another myth bust.

1000 arrows a second unleashed by the English/Welsh archers ...eeurgh!!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

1000 arrows a second unleashed by the English/Welsh archers ...eeurgh!!

Do you have a link to prove this absolute. Or is at a Daily Fail equivalent 15th century tall tale.
Was that the same British archers who failed so miserably at Bannockburn. The must have got hold of a decent archery coach in between years.

 

[CliveW]

I wonder if they will do a prequel of Braveheart showing the rise of Bruce in the quaint English countryside 👍😂

What has Braveheart got to do with Robert The Bruce???

 

[Fade and Die]

Snowflakes need not click......

 

[patricks148]

Do you have a link to prove this absolute. Or is at a Daily Fail equivalent 15th century tall tale.
Was that the same British archers who failed so miserably at Bannockburn. The must have got hold of a decent archery coach in between years.

most historical texts state most of the archers were welsh. look up the indenture rolls for the arm of Henry V.

as for the difference between the archers between 1314 and 1415 there is 100 years difference and military tactics had changed in the time. the longbow tactic had been honed by the Edward iii in the 100 years war at Crecy and Poitiers. Edward the 1st favored heavy cavalry, the french downfall in all but the later years or the 100 years war

 

[Beezerk]

most historical texts state most of the archers were welsh. look up the indenture rolls for the arm of Henry V.

as for the difference between the archers between 1314 and 1415 there is 100 years difference and military tactics had changed in the time. the longbow tactic had been honed by the Edward iii in the 100 years war at Crecy and Poitiers. Edward the 1st favored heavy cavalry, the french downfall in all but the later years or the 100 years war

Are you Simon Schama in disguise 😂

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Do you have a link to prove this absolute. Or is at a Daily Fail equivalent 15th century tall tale.
Was that the same British archers who failed so miserably at Bannockburn. The must have got hold of a decent archery coach in between years.

You seem very rattled by this earth shattering news - must hurt to the core that one of your homelands favourite sons was actually English

Text books and exams must be going through an extensive rewrite at the moment to ensure the changes are well documented

 

[USER1999]

You seem very rattled by this earth shattering news - must hurt to the core that one of your homelands favourite sons was actually English

Text books and exams must be going through an extensive rewrite at the moment to ensure the changes are well documented

If he was a Norman, then he was French. Worse, or better than English?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

If he was a Norman, then he was French. Worse, or better than English?

Blimey - think that might be a step up from the Scottish perspective

 

[Hobbit]

De Brus was from French parentage. Far more civilised than both England and Scotland. Although his flipping between fighting Edward, and then supporting him, then subjugating many of the Scottish clans clearly suggest he was as trustworthy as Mo Johnstone or Kenny Miller playing for both Celtic and Rangers.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

You seem very rattled by this earth shattering news - must hurt to the core that one of your homelands favourite sons was actually English

Text books and exams must be going through an extensive rewrite at the moment to ensure the changes are well documented

I think you need to calm yourself down a bit.
You seem to be the only one on this thread taking it seriously.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Some eejit will say that St. George was Turkish/Syrian next........

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Some eejit will say that St. George was Turkish/Syrian next........

Or St Andrew was a Greek.

 

[HughJars]

You seem very rattled by this earth shattering news - must hurt to the core that one of your homelands favourite sons was actually English

Text books and exams must be going through an extensive rewrite at the moment to ensure the changes are well documented

According to actual historians (if you'd listened to this young girl on Radio Scotland giggling like a schoolgirl, you'd realise she's no academic), Bruce's mother never stepped foot outside Scotland, and he was absolutely born at Turnberry castle. Good one to get the guffs going though.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I think you need to calm yourself down a bit.
You seem to be the only one on this thread taking it seriously.

It is serious Doon - this changes the whole history of Scotland , it’s earth shattering , I understand schools are scrambling to ensure they teach right thing , I expect a day mourning soon, must be heartbreaking for you

 

[DCB]

Enough ! Post 22 was a general warning. Lets keep it on track and civil.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Enough ! Post 22 was a general warning. Lets keep it on track and civil.

Do you mean post 32?

 

[Tashyboy]

Do you have a link to prove this absolute. Or is at a Daily Fail equivalent 15th century tall tale.
Was that the same British archers who failed so miserably at Bannockburn. The must have got hold of a decent archery coach in between years.

As has been said. Most of the
“ british” archers at agincourt were welsh. Maybe its time the scotish thanked the welsh for helping them in not learning french if they had won. Although the eiffel tower would of looked good at the side of Edinburgh castle. 😉

 

[HughJars]

As has been said. Most of the
“ british” archers at agincourt were welsh. Maybe its time the scotish thanked the welsh for helping them in not learning french if they had won. Although the eiffel tower would of looked good at the side of Edinburgh castle. 😉

Why would we thank them for that?