Retrieving a card from the Comp Box

[oltimer]

Seems some of you have no consideration for the hcap sec as one of the joys of life being to dq for no signature ,especially when you have spent hours trying to figure out whether it is a 3 o 5 or 8 written in pencil on wet soggy cards

 

[2blue]

Seems some of you have no consideration for the hcap sec as one of the joys of life being to dq for no signature ,especially when you have spent hours trying to figure out whether it is a 3 o 5 or 8 written in pencil on wet soggy cards

Hooray!!!.... for that man/person.
It’s never been a case of looking for reasons to DQ folk, that’s an attitude of the dim & distant past.
It’s more a matter of clarifying the situation so that it is understood by all involved. In our case 4 of us on the H/cap team & members who expect others to bend over backwards to correct their careless errors.
Many thanks for the many & varied responses... a lot has been learnt... just LOVE this forum 😘😘

 

[Hacker-Leeds]

Sorry, 2Blue, but you know my views !

Your scorecard is YOUR property until it is handed to the committee (normally by putting it the comp box) and you are responsible for it. For me, walk off the 18th, agree scores with your marker, SIGN YOUR CARD, and after that you have done your best.

 

[Hacker-Leeds]

PS - to my first post on this.....

Just like Royal Mail, my view is that - once the card has gone in the comp box 'slot' it is submitted to the committee, and cannot be retrieved. Try asking a man emptying the post-box if you can have a letter back that you didn't mean to send ! Simple rule, for me, post your card, and that's it - if you trust someone else to do it, more fool you.

 

[2blue]

Sorry, 2Blue, but you know my views !

Your scorecard is YOUR property until it is handed to the committee (normally by putting it the comp box) and you are responsible for it. For me, walk off the 18th, agree scores with your marker, SIGN YOUR CARD, and after that you have done your best.

Welcome to the Forum Brian.... now behave yourself!!

 

[bobmac]

It's interesting how signing for an incorrect scorecard is a 2 shot penalty yet not signing a correct score card is DQ

 

[rulefan]

It's interesting how signing for an incorrect scorecard is a 2 shot penalty

?????

The competitor is responsible for the correctness of the score recorded for each hole on his score card. If he returns a score for any hole lower than actually taken, he is disqualified.

Exception: If a competitor returns a score for any hole lower than actually taken due to failure to include one or more penalty strokes that, before returning his score card, he did not know he had incurred, he is not disqualified.

 

[bobmac]

?????

The competitor is responsible for the correctness of the score recorded for each hole on his score card. If he returns a score for any hole lower than actually taken, he is disqualified.

I know

Exception: If a competitor returns a score for any hole lower than actually taken due to failure to include one or more penalty strokes that, before returning his score card, he did not know he had incurred, he is not disqualified.

I know

 

[rulefan]

So why make the statement without qualification?

 

[bobmac]

So why make the statement without qualification?

What is the penalty for signing for an incorrect scorcard?

 

[Dasit]

Put a little feint signature on your card right at the start



Then at the end go over it with your proper signature.



If you forget to go over at the end, the feint signature will be fine.

 

[rulefan]

What is the penalty for signing for an incorrect scorcard?

As you well know but omitted to make clear, it depends on the circumstances.

#46 implies that DQ is always the penalty.

 

[Colin L]

Put a little feint signature on your card right at the start



Then at the end go over it with your proper signature.



If you forget to go over at the end, the feint signature will be fine.

If you want to sign it faintly before you start, why not just sign it boldly and only have to do it once?

 

[rosecott]

Put a little feint signature on your card right at the start



Then at the end go over it with your proper signature.



If you forget to go over at the end, the feint signature will be fine.

As I've said more times than I've had hot dinners, it's not the existence of the signature that is important, it's a statement of "I've checked the gross scores with my marker".

 

[rulefan]

As I've said more times than I've had hot dinners, .....

And you've been told a million times not to exaggerate.

 

[bobmac]

As I've said more times than I've had hot dinners, it's not the existence of the signature that is important, it's a statement of "I've checked the gross scores with my marker".

Really?

As you well know but omitted to make clear, it depends on the circumstances.

The point I was making was you could return a signed card with the wrong score (which could affect the players handicap and/or the results of the competition and only get a 2 shot penalty if the error was discovered.

Whereas returning a correct score but not signed is a DQ

It's the imbalance of the punishment I am questioning


Perhaps a future rule change could reduce the DQ to a 2 shot penalty as they have done in other circumstances

 

[rulefan]

The point I was making was you could return a signed card with the wrong score (which could affect the players handicap and/or the results of the competition and only get a 2 shot penalty if the error was discovered.

What error?

Except in one specific case relating to an unknown rule breach, the penalty for a wrong score is DQ.

 

[bobmac]

Except in one specific case relating to an unknown rule breach, the penalty for a wrong score is DQ.

I know.

 

[rulefan]

I know.

Why do you concentrate on the rare exception, which is really a penalty for not being aware of a rule? It's not really about entering the wrong no of strokes played.

It will probably never crop up in club competition.

 

[bobmac]

I should know better

I'm out