Rees-Mogg...

drdel said:
Original or Indian import - sorry I forgot we can only buy stuff from the EU.
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Just as well that stuff is tariff free - for the time being...

Actually and as it happens - much of what R-M is on about in respect of grammar and words not to be used - I get...which is a first.

nb - only three dots for an ellipsis please...(something that the PotUS for one hasn't a clue about)
 
Grant85 said:
A bit of a nonsense and fairly irrelevant.

The rules are the rules and they can apply them or flex them when it is in their interests to do so. It hardly matters if they do or not, the UK still doesn't have any control or say.

The UK would have benefited from a bailout, had it needed one.

If there is no border between Ireland / N Ireland then you would have the following;
* N. Ireland would effectively remain in the EU- i.e. their businesses would have full physical access to the EU market via Ireland
* The EU would have full physical access to the UK via Ireland - they could import billions of pounds worth of produce every day flooding the UK market with EU 'stuff' (obviously they can and do do that already)
* In event of any tariffs, these could easily be bypassed by exporting all goods via RoI to the continent (not just N Irish business, but mainland UK businesses as well).
* EU citizens could pass freely from the EU to the UK
* The UK would have no say in the rules

Still really don't get what the point of leaving would be, especially if Leavers are so keen for the EU border to remain open in Ireland.

Regardless of the border situation;
* any UK business trading with the EU will still need to adhere to regulatory alignment - more likely this will be done an an industry by industry basis
* the UK will still need a shed load of foreign workers to power our economy.
* trade deals with other countries will take time and will become very complex as one trade deal will stipulate the kind of deals we can do with other countries / blocks
* sterling continues to weaken and stuff is getting more expensive

Ultimately the EU will / can flex their rules when it suits their members. This effectively means Dublin will have the final say / veto on any action the EU takes or doesn't take on this issue.
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Not read it all coz am on me hols. But i would love boris to turn up in Dublin with a suitcase full of cash from his money tree and say we can and will make this “ border” problem work. What pisses me off (and am swearing on holiday) is. When Europe had a problem with wars/ violence/ terrorism. We, the UK fought for peace. There is a fragile peace in Ireland and Northern Ireland. That for me is worth spending Billions. We were there for Europe. They should be there for us. If not
( stick your own four letter word in here) *^#% um.
 
Tashyboy said:
Not read it all coz am on me hols. But i would love boris to turn up in Dublin with a suitcase full of cash from his money tree and say we can and will make this “ border” problem work. What pisses me off (and am swearing on holiday) is. When Europe had a problem with wars/ violence/ terrorism. We, the UK fought for peace. There is a fragile peace in Ireland and Northern Ireland. That for me is worth spending Billions. We were there for Europe. They should be there for us. If not
( stick your own four letter word in here) *^#% um.
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At some point Britain has got to stop trying to dine out on this argument, yes we were there during the wars but so we're many othera. Plus times have changed if there's a war in Europe now even out of the EU we will still have to go because we're part of the 29 nations that make up Nato members so if there's a war that Nato get drawn into Europe or otherwise we're going as well.
 
Tashyboy said:
Not read it all coz am on me hols. But i would love boris to turn up in Dublin with a suitcase full of cash from his money tree and say we can and will make this “ border” problem work. What pisses me off (and am swearing on holiday) is. When Europe had a problem with wars/ violence/ terrorism. We, the UK fought for peace. There is a fragile peace in Ireland and Northern Ireland. That for me is worth spending Billions. We were there for Europe. They should be there for us. If not
( stick your own four letter word in here) *^#% um.
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And there was me thinking in the 2nd WW we needed those non Biritish to help us beat the Nazi threat.
Strange how we forget that when we want to;)
 
Bunkermagnet said:
And there was me thinking in the 2nd WW we needed those non Biritish to help us beat the Nazi threat.
Strange how we forget that when we want to;)
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Am sure i know what you mean and am sure europe wouldn't be bothered either. But Tash is bothered that europe has a very short memory
 
Tashyboy said:
Not read it all coz am on me hols. But i would love boris to turn up in Dublin with a suitcase full of cash from his money tree and say we can and will make this “ border” problem work. What pisses me off (and am swearing on holiday) is. When Europe had a problem with wars/ violence/ terrorism. We, the UK fought for peace. There is a fragile peace in Ireland and Northern Ireland. That for me is worth spending Billions. We were there for Europe. They should be there for us. If not
( stick your own four letter word in here) *^#% um.
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100% correct Tash, remember in the glorious words of Mrs T “ Most of the problems the world has faced have come from mainland Europe... And the solutions from outside it."
 
Hitdaball said:
Come on guys it’s time to give the little englander we won the war 60 yrs ago BS a rest. In any case if you want mainland Europe to show grace to who made the largest sacrifices to defeat Nazism they would be looking east first, not west.
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Would that be towards Russia the very country that did a deal with the Nazis. 🤔
 
Tashyboy said:
Not read it all coz am on me hols. But i would love boris to turn up in Dublin with a suitcase full of cash from his money tree and say we can and will make this “ border” problem work. What pisses me off (and am swearing on holiday) is. When Europe had a problem with wars/ violence/ terrorism. We, the UK fought for peace. There is a fragile peace in Ireland and Northern Ireland. That for me is worth spending Billions. We were there for Europe. They should be there for us. If not
( stick your own four letter word in here) *^#% um.
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Tashyboy said:
Am sure i know what you mean and am sure europe wouldn't be bothered either. But Tash is bothered that europe has a very short memory
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The epitome of the little englander being the rescuer of Europe yet not having a single clue about the History of the continent that England/UK has caused just as many problems than it has solved

Fade and Die said:
100% correct Tash, remember in the glorious words of Mrs T “ Most of the problems the world has faced have come from mainland Europe... And the solutions from outside it."
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How much is the yearly subscription to the EDL ?

Tashyboy said:
hope to god your right. But me finks not. ☹️
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49153095
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I’m not sure you should start to delve into the political issues and landscape of N Ireland - you embarrass yourself enough as it is
 
Liverpoolphil said:
The epitome of the little englander being the rescuer of Europe yet not having a single clue about the History of the continent that England/UK has caused just as many problems than it has solved



How much is the yearly subscription to the EDL ?



I’m not sure you should start to delve into the political issues and landscape of N Ireland - you embarrass yourself enough as it is
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How would I know Phil? Are you like Lammy and compare brexiteers to Nazis?
 
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